Rich Vs Adel (March 11th, 2011)-Teams [Merged]

[skiptomystu]

Nason copped that massive bump in the first NAB game, maybe he has an injury from that we dont know about?

 

[zippadeee]

Nason copped that massive bump in the first NAB game, maybe he has an injury from that we dont know about?

Sorry, no injury, being playing in 2nds and dosent too good for him this season, with heilberg and conca playing well.
saw him on friday, nothing wrong. No plaster, No crutches, No bandages

 

[tha8ball]

Good to hear Taylor dominating for the burgers... REALLY need him to play seniors this year.

 

[zippadeee]

The zips Round 1 team

B) Rance Mcguane Grigg

HB) Batchelor Asbury Newman

C) Conca Foley Lids

HF) King Jack Taylor

F) Hellbig Post Morton

R) Derick Martin Cotchin

Inter, Farmer Moore Vickery emg) Nahas

 

[Dyer'ere]

I just read on another thread that the inside 50s were 68-35. They had around three times the number of scoring shots. They're the sort of numbers that you get when a side gets beaten by twenty goals.

Our last prep game for 2011 was a marketing disaster. Beavis's media blast did a little to alleviate that.

Bring on round one.

 

[allybabe]

Went to the game, finally got a chance to give my take on everyone who played.

Chris Newman - Started somewhat slowly but really got going as the match progressed. Remember him delivering a brilliant pass to Posty at one stage who goaled from memory. Didn't get as much of it as usual, but it was his first game back, he'll be better again in Round 1.

Brett Deledio - Was ok. A lot of his touches were all class, but he didn't really impact the game in any way. Was used for kickouts a lot but our strategy when doing so is p!ss poor, so often he just had to bomb to a contest. Not his fault. Was very good in aerial contests I thought, always finding a way to get a fist in.

Dustin Martin - Was one of our very best I thought. Was one of the few who was able to win his fair share of clearances for us, and some of his long kicks off half-back were brilliant and really set up the play. Did notice he wasn't successfully fending off opponents as what he was last year, but nonetheless he was very, very good. He also went forward at one stage and took a strong overhead mark on the lead....a facet of his game I didn't know he had.

Shaun Grigg - Gave us a bit of good and bad. Racked up the ball with ease which was a great sign, including plenty of in and under stuff which is great. Has a super boot on him and competes very well in the air too. On the other hand though, noticed he was kicking some bad floaters from time to time. The good outweighed the bad but he might have something to work on with his kicking at full pace.

Jack Riewoldt - Thought he was fantastic for a guy playing his first game of the year. Didn't really impact the scoreboard individually, but his efforts and hard work when the ball actually was down our end was great to see. Certainly hasn't lost his huge leap which almost saw him bring down a couple of screamers. Goal kicking accuracy is still sublime as well. He will be every bit as good this year as he was last year. Bookmark it.

Shane Edwards - I was a fan of his last season, but he has been, to put it bluntly, terrible this pre-season. Is ok defensively, but his kicking has been atrocious this pre-season, and Friday was no different. I was always taught to treat each possession with respect but I think Edwards can be lazy with his disposal and not really concentrate when he is disposing of the footy. I wouldn't have him in my round 1 side which says a lot about his pre-season.

David Astbury - Was comprehensively beaten by Taylor Walker early on. The ball was down in Adelaide's 50 a fair bit, but David couldn’t even compete, Walker was out marking him every single time. Wasn’t too bad when he got the ball himself, but I think he is a year off holding down a KP spot, just not ready to play on the big boys yet.

Bachar Houli – A lot smaller than I thought he’d be, but I thought he was very good. He would already be one of the best kickers at the club, his left foot is Newman like. Also saw him get in and under a few times too, showing that he doesn’t just need the pill fed to him all the day. He is going to be a very handy player for us this year I reckon. Riewoldt is going to love the delivery he gets from this bloke.

Luke McGuane – Hasn’t changed as a player, for better or worse. Still a fantastic one on one defender and really shut Walker down for 2 quarters before Walker got hot again in the last. He might be our best 1 on 1 defender I reckon. However, his skills and decision making are still very poor when he’s got the footy. He’s better off just banging it 60m down the ground than actually trying to hit up a short target I reckon.

Alex Rance – I think he is getting better. Still makes some questionable decisions but they aren’t as prevalent as they used to be. Absolutely love his physicality and the way he takes the game on, I think he will eventually become a good player for us down back.

Daniel Connors – Think he might have been hurt in the warm up??

Mitch Morton – Liked his game. I’m still unsure as to where his best position is, maybe he can be used wherever he is needed in any given game, as he can play both a midfield role or forward role very well. Worked hard up and down the wing and provided a target up forward when he was there.

Daniel Jackson – Think he has to be used as a tagger and that’s probably it. Footskills aren’t up to scratch, although he has only played 2 games in the pre-season so it might just be cobwebs. Hard to judge his game as I don’t know if he was tagging anyone or not, wasn’t paying attention to that kind of thing.

Angus Graham – Still hasn’t got the greatest motor, although to be fair I think he did a lot more ruckwork than Maric or Jacobs did singally. I think he’s still our #1 ruck option, at least for the first half of the year anyway. One thing I did take away from the game is I think we will need to play Graham, Vickery and one of Browne/Derickx every week.

Robin Nahas – Loved this fella’s game. Worked hard, got front and centre up forward, was chasing, tackling and throwing around what little weight he has. His kicking was top notch as well. I wasn’t sold on him last year but from what I saw Friday and from the rest of his pre-season, je may have turned the corner similar to how Jake King has resurrected his career.

Jake King – Has gone from being a player who I disliked to being one of my absolute faves. People who say he is not up to it either haven’t watched his past 15 games (including pre-season), or they simply can’t man up and admit they were wrong about him. Everything he does is for the team and he plays his forward role magnificently. Does hurt the opposition when he gets it now too, I love him.

Tyrone Vickery – Make no doubts about it people, it might not be this year, but he WILL fulfil his potential and be a very good player for us. Gave a real contest and took some great grabs both up forward and around the ground. I have full confidence in him now that he will show why he was taken at Pick 8.

Reece Conca – Looked over-awed early on, and I still think he plays a bit scared, but to his credit he got better and better as the game went on. Looks to have so much time when he has the ball and makes correct decisions when he chooses to get rid of it. I won’t be expecting big numbers in 2011, but eventually I think he’ll wind up to be a vital cog in our midfield.

Jake Batchelor – Don’t think he had as much game time as he’s had in previous weeks. Can’t recall him getting much of the pill at all.

Brad Helbig – This guy is my big positive of the game. Only played in bursts, but gee he has some ability. His defensive chase downs were fantastic which resulted in a goal of his own, but his second and third efforts on the wing in the 3rd term were great to see for a teenager. I’d go as far as to say I’m more excited about him than Conca at this stage. Obviously it might take a while for him to turn these bursts into consistent, full game efforts, but he is definitely one for the future. Will play games in 2011 for sure.

Matthew White – Was great defensively I thought, chopping off opposition kicks and then kick starting a rebound from 50, but his kicking while running at pace will always be the feature of his game that lets him down unfortunately. I’m not sure why Dimma has been playing him in defence, as I liked him up forward last year. I don’t think he uses it well enough to be a rebounding defender.

Jayden Post – Like Vickery I thought he showed some great signs, especially in front of goal. Kicked a beauty from about 50m out on the flank in the 2nd quarter, and then nailed one from the other end on the run from the same distance. I like him as a forward, and I think there’s room up there for him, Riewoldt and Vickery to work together.

Nathan Foley – Is getting better with each match which is fantastic news. Probably won’t see him at his best until Round 3 or 4 or so, as you can see he is just getting used to the pace again, but we saw some glimpses of the old Foley bursting out of packs which was a definite highlight. Doesn’t looked to have lost any pace and still finds the footy with ease. If he stays fit it’s going to be bloody exciting watching him, Martin and Cotchin in the guts together in 2011.

Matt Dea – Only just realised he wore the #43. I thought it was Jakobi, so after finding out it was Dea I was pleasantly surprised. Started as a sub and didn’t get much game time, but I thought he was clever in high pressure situations with his handballs in traffic. Didn’t get much of a run though but definitely something to work with.

I know we all see the game differently but lids played ok? Wow! I thought it was the worst I have seen him play. Some awful decisions

I also saw Conce get crunched putting his body on the line so I absolutley disagree he is playing scared.

I do agree, however, that the kick outs were once again an abombination

 

[Rfc4Ever]

Good signs for our forwards with Vickery plaing well, Post having a good game and Taylor playing well for Coburg. King doing well too.

Nahas has been the most impressive of all however IMO.

 

[Phar Ace]

Thanks for the feedback Skip - was good to read.

 

[smasha]

Nahas seems to be the bashing boy of our club.

Tries his heart out but always gets bagged.

I think we need him to give us some well needed run.

 

[cooltiger]

yeah think Nahas has been much improved this pre season ..lets hope he continues to improve

 

[johnson2richo2003]

yeah think Nahas has been much improved this pre season ..lets hope he continues to improve

Being one-sided will be his downfall.

 

[White Lightning]

Being one-sided will be his downfall.

i don't think anyone has ever been de-listed because they didn't use their left foot

 

[johnson2richo2003]

i don't think anyone has ever been de-listed because they didn't use their left foot

10-15 yrs ago your right.Perfect example on Friday was in the 3rd.The ball was on our left half fwd Flank.Nahas got some space and tried a outside of his Right boot dribble shot for goal.Now Clubs would have done their home work on Nahas and acted accordingly.He,ll be a liability to the side.Greg Tivendale is another perfect example.Once clubs worked him out his career went downhill.

 

[skiptomystu]

I know we all see the game differently but lids played ok? Wow! I thought it was the worst I have seen him play. Some awful decisions

I also saw Conce get crunched putting his body on the line so I absolutley disagree he is playing scared.

I do agree, however, that the kick outs were once again an abombination

Early on Conca was rushing his disposal a bit when players came rushing at him, rather than keeping cool, looking for an option or simply trying to weave around his opponents. As I mentioned in my review he got much better as the game progressed. This was what I was referring to.

Lids was ok IMO. As I said, didn't impact the game in any way but its not like he was turning the ball over or allowing his opponent to kick goals, he was just ok. As I mentioned, it often looked bad for him at the kickouts, but considering the lack of movement, all he had to go to was a contest time and time again. Fundamentally I thought he played 'ok'.

 

[allybabe]

Early on Conca was rushing his disposal a bit when players came rushing at him, rather than keeping cool, looking for an option or simply trying to weave around his opponents. As I mentioned in my review he got much better as the game progressed. This was what I was referring to.

Lids was ok IMO. As I said, didn't impact the game in any way but its not like he was turning the ball over or allowing his opponent to kick goals, he was just ok. As I mentioned, it often looked bad for him at the kickouts, but considering the lack of movement, all he had to go to was a contest time and time again. Fundamentally I thought he played 'ok'.

Ok

I think "playing scared" as certain connotations. He got absolutley crunched at half back going with the fligh in the first quartert , so i would never put conca and scared in the same sentence. Rushed? Maybe. Scared? no way.

It is frightening to think what will happen in round one after watching Friday night. Frightening.

 

[evo]

10-15 yrs ago your right.Perfect example on Friday was in the 3rd.The ball was on our left half fwd Flank.Nahas got some space and tried a outside of his Right boot dribble shot for goal.Now Clubs would have done their home work on Nahas and acted accordingly.

that was shocking wasn't it. He should've at least tried a left foot shot. even if he had've shanked it it would've looked better than that right foot attempt. It was only a few metres away from me - he was pretty clear.

 

[johnson2richo2003]

that was shocking wasn't it. He should've at least tried a left foot shot. even if he had've shanked it it would've looked better than that right foot attempt. It was only a few metres away from me - he was pretty clear.

Not sure what he was Thinking really.

 

[diggler]

I can just see the forum posts in 6 weeks when we are flogged in the first four games.

GET MALTHOUSE!!!

 

[White Lightning]

that was shocking wasn't it. He should've at least tried a left foot shot. even if he had've shanked it it would've looked better than that right foot attempt. It was only a few metres away from me - he was pretty clear.

that incident came down to composure not because he used his right foot. Big difference... A lot of AFL players rarely use their opposite foot these days because their skill set is so much better than it has ever been. Word is that the coaches encourage their players to use their preferred foot, use your opposite when it is the very last resort... and I do mean the very last resort

Anyway i think you're clutching at straws and if that's the only negative , that's a good thing

 

[Col.E.Kurtz]

that incident came down to composure not because he used his right foot. Big difference... A lot of AFL players rarely use their opposite foot these days because their skill set is so much better than it has ever been. Word is that the coaches encourage their players to use their preferred foot, use your opposite when it is the very last resort... and I do mean the very last resort

Anyway i think you're clutching at straws and if that's the only negative , that's a good thing

Good mate of mine is coached by a well respected recently retired AFL player from a successful club and he doesn't rate kicking on you none preferred side at all. If you can do it, great, and it gets taught to juniors, but he's not fussed at all about players being one sided.