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Reece Conca - so long and thanks for all the fish

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

IrockZ said:
Did you see Gaff last week against the Saints? Id say the Eagles would be fairly happy. Polec aswell had a great start to the year but is out for the season.

Im not going to judge Conca until he has a good pre season behind him but would be nice if he has a breakout game soon like the others have had.

you dont reckon any of the 6 games in a row he got 20+ possies was a 'breakout' game?
for perspective gaff has had 1 20+ game, polec none. possies clearly arent everything but conca's season has been a lot better than either of those 2.
as i said earlier tho, it is way to early to start judging last years draft.
 
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Very happy with what Conca has shown so far this year. But it's too early to start the comparisons for any of the players.
 
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If Conca was told to 'run loose in the backline and pick up disposals at will' instead of 'stay close to your man and defend like crazy' then we would all be saying how good he is ... this is Heppell.

IMO when Conca is given more freedom to attack, as he has done in spurts this year, we will see a much better player who has also been schooled in defense, unlike Heppell.

Conca will not be a 'dud delist' in a couple of years and I cannot wait until next year with a full pre-season under his belt. Might just be either the defense small or additional mid that we need.
 
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Didnt see Heppell get jobs on small forwards like Milne..

Heppell is a good player but its way to early to judge between he and Conca.. Conca does appear to have a huge upside and the fact that he is a smaller guy means he will hopefully improve more than Heppell with more body size..

But they both show good poise and skill, if anything i'd say Conca can use both sides of his body better
 
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Brodders17 said:
you dont reckon any of the 6 games in a row he got 20+ possies was a 'breakout' game?
for perspective gaff has had 1 20+ game, polec none. possies clearly arent everything but conca's season has been a lot better than either of those 2.
as i said earlier tho, it is way to early to start judging last years draft.

Essendon was prob his best game. Just meant would like to see him start kicking goals like the others and be more damaging.
 
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Out of all draftees, he has the highest kicks to advantage ratio and is amongst the highest in contested possession ratios. He's also equal with Deledio and Newman for score launches, a pretty crucial stat for players setting up of half back. I'd say he's causing plenty of damage for first year player.
 
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TigerMasochist said:
Haven't seen much of Heppell so I'm not gunna bag him to hard for a bomber snot, but I have noticed that he spends most of his game roaming around on his own. For a defender he seems to play very loose, makes him an ideal easy release player and he certainly creates well.

If Heppel was at the Tigers he'd be 6th on our list for contested possessions this year and 6th for total possessions. He appears to play quite loose but the stats tell a different story. I think he's just brilliant at getting free. Heppell is a clear stand out from last year's dradt and will win the rising star award easily. He's a gun and personally I think we'll look back and think of it as a mistake as Heppell was the size and type of player we desperately needed in the backline. He is going to fill out also, its one thing I liked about him at draft time was the size he already had built up as a teenager.

Still too early to tell of course.
 
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Disco08 said:
Out of all draftees, he has the highest kicks to advantage ratio and is amongst the highest in contested possession ratios. He's also equal with Deledio and Newman for score launches, a pretty crucial stat for players setting up of half back. I'd say he's causing plenty of damage for first year player.
Agree!
Has a little bit of Robert Harvey about him i reckon Disco.Gunna be a beauty over time.
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Still think swallow will win it, only just. His more consistent in a team that's getting pounded ( most weeks)
 
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GoodOne said:
If Heppel was at the Tigers he'd be 6th on our list for contested possessions this year and 6th for total possessions. He appears to play quite loose but the stats tell a different story. I think he's just brilliant at getting free.

If you take TOG into account Conca's stats are very nearly as impressive as Heppell's. As it is , despite that, he's even with him for winning his own ball, contested posessions and kicks to advantage.
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Disco08 said:
Out of all draftees, he has the highest kicks to advantage ratio and is amongst the highest in contested possession ratios. He's also equal with Deledio and Newman for score launches, a pretty crucial stat for players setting up of half back. I'd say he's causing plenty of damage for first year player.

Good work Duckman, that's a pretty impressive set of numbers. And tell some truths. I am more then happy with Conca and think he will bring a lot to the table over the years but I still would have taken Heppell.

If Hep-D is the gold standard that Conca is judged upon going forward I think we have done ok. The talking down of either is not needed.
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Disco08 said:
If you take TOG into account Conca's stats are very nearly as impressive as Heppell's. As it is , despite that, he's even with him for winning his own ball, contested posessions and kicks to advantage.

Don't get me wrong, Conca has performed tremendously in his first year. Just felt our more pressing need was for a player of Heppel's size rather than Conca's.
 
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GoodOne said:
Don't get me wrong, Conca has performed tremendously in his first year. Just felt our more pressing need was for a player of Heppel's size rather than Conca's.
we getting both would have been handy ;)..but could only get one both going to be great players in there own right
 
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Dunno Goody, Conca's 185 and looks to me like he's going to furnish into a very strong lad indeed. He looks like he'll have great core strength similar to Hodge and as a bonus, he kicks it a bit like Hodge too.
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Disco08 said:
Dunno Goody, Conca's 185 and looks to me like he's going to furnish into a very strong lad indeed. He looks like he'll have great core strength similar to Hodge and as a bonus, he kicks it a bit like Hodge too.

Does that mean he'll make more of an impact on games than Deledio ;D Just cross-pollinating threads.
 
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Disco08 said:
Dunno Goody, Conca's 185 and looks to me like he's going to furnish into a very strong lad indeed. He looks like he'll have great core strength similar to Hodge and as a bonus, he kicks it a bit like Hodge too.

Not sure he is ever going to be a Hodge type. And just while we are on it, his kicking is good but at this point I would not call it elite. Really want to see him take the game on more. The thing that has impressed me most is his ability below to work in traffic and find a way out. When he goes to ground he does hold it in. I would think that %80 of the free kicks against him are for holding the ball.
 
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He's copped a couple of terrible decisions though too. At least 2 holding the balls I can remember him having no prior opportunity at all before beign wrapped up.

I think his kicking looks good because his decision making and composure are very good, along with actually being a nice kick.
 
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Settle on the Hodge kicking comparisons Disco.

Dont think he'll be able to drill the ball at speed like Hodge can nor have the depth in his boot that Hodge has.

Thats no knock on Conca who's been more than serviceable. That gather & quick kick at goal that was just touched on the weekend was class.
 
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Maybe Leysy. I'm still looking forward to watching him when he's got some meat on the bones. His technique looks like one that'll develop into a beautiful thing in time to me.