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Reece Conca - so long and thanks for all the fish

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Dyer'ere said:
Conca and Cotchin each got five clearances last week. Next best was four IIRC.
Not bad Jack for someone who is tired and apparently needs a sleep.
 
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jackfrost said:
Again your missing the entire point..... so what that they would run rings around them in relation to "RUNNING" capacity, I don't think Ive disputed that...... does being able to run great distances, for greater lengths of time mean better footballers today ?........I don't believe it does, thats all Im saying here.

If all I wanted to see were people with great "running capacity" then I'd go watch athletes who compete in Track events like the 10,000 and Marathon, who cares that they can run, that doesnt make them better footballers, there's more to the game than simply running, do skills not mean anything ?

and for God sakes...... its "NAIVE", to get it so wrong again (even after I spelt it correctly for you) is inexcusable.

Sorry Jack, I think i've completely missed your point. You were questioning why players needed a rest because they didn't seem to 20 years ago. I thought it naive :) to make the comparison between the fitness needs of players today, especially given the advances in sports science.. You came back with some guff about it being no more tiring than it was 20 years ago, how you came to that conclusion is beyond me. You've then gone on to talk about marathon running and skills - not quite sure why, I merely thought you were taking a very simplistic look at something that is very scientific and measured.

I'm sure the fitness staff at the club will do whatever is in the best interests of Conca (and any other player on the list for that matter).
 
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He had some great quality touches - never coughs it up would rather be done holding the ball rather than turn it over. Quality kid.
 
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his running game was down but was good in tight with his quick hands.
 
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Dyer'ere said:
Conca and Cotchin each got five clearances last week. Next best was four IIRC.

Against Swans? Pro-stats says 8 clearances to Cotchin and Martin, 0 to Conca. Against Brisbane, Cotchin 7 Foley 6 Conca 1.
 
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GEDS1 said:
He had some great quality touches - never coughs it up would rather be done holding the ball rather than turn it over. Quality kid.

Not always the case, has had his fair share of turnovers at times, but amazingly last weekend he had not one turnover. Made all the more impressive considering he had 9 contested possessions. Great effort.
 
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It doesnt matter if some supporters think he's tired and needs a rest.

I'm sure the Richmond coaching & fitness staff are in a much better position to decide!
 
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JR8 said:
It doesnt matter if some supporters think he's tired and needs a rest.

I'm sure the Richmond coaching & fitness staff are in a much better position to decide!

Nah. Popular PRE opinion should take precedence imo.
 
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GoodOne said:
Against Swans? Pro-stats says 8 clearances to Cotchin and Martin, 0 to Conca. Against Brisbane, Cotchin 7 Foley 6 Conca 1.

Wouldn't use Pro Stats. There's major discrepancies between their stats and Champion Data's. Champion Data is the main stat provider for the AFL if I'm not mistaken. They had Conca credited with 3 clearances against Brisbane - equal 4th for us.
 
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Streak said:
Not bad if the stats quoted are accurate, but it doesn't look like they are.
Yeah... bloody Jack... the stats fitted though. ;D
 
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Big Cat Lover said:
Sorry Jack, I think i've completely missed your point. You were questioning why players needed a rest because they didn't seem to 20 years ago. I thought it naive :) to make the comparison between the fitness needs of players today, especially given the advances in sports science.. You came back with some guff about it being no more tiring than it was 20 years ago, how you came to that conclusion is beyond me. You've then gone on to talk about marathon running and skills - not quite sure why, I merely thought you were taking a very simplistic look at something that is very scientific and measured.

I'm sure the fitness staff at the club will do whatever is in the best interests of Conca (and any other player on the list for that matter).

Fair enough there BCL....we'll agree to disagree on certain aspects of the past & present, thats no problem in the least, pretty irrelavant anyway.

The topic was about Conco needing a rest or not and whether fatigue or form was a reason that he could be looking at a spell.

If the kid is fatigued then by all means rest him if it is in his best interests for the future, but don't drop him and play him at Coburg, that makes no sense whatsoever and sets back any progress he has made on a heap of levels.

Even at 50% this kid shows more than anyone of the duds at Coburg that will be up for a week, and down again within 2, so why bother ?

p.s....good job with "naive" also..... :fing32
 
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Barnzy said:
Wouldn't use Pro Stats. There's major discrepancies between their stats and Champion Data's. Champion Data is the main stat provider for the AFL if I'm not mistaken. They had Conca credited with 3 clearances against Brisbane - equal 4th for us.

Pro Stats provides to half the AFL teams as I understand including Richmond. Maybe that's where we've been going wrong then, Pro-Stats no good, don't know what they're doing?
 
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Elmer said:
Yeah... bloody Jack... the stats fitted though. ;D

Sorry mate. I was sober at the time of posting. Won't happen again. Still three's enough to keep him in. We can't buy a clearance.
 
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Tigers of Old said:
I guess they decided he doesn't need a break yet.

Guess he had a good couple of nights sleep, the odd recovery sesh that is all the go these days apparently and the medical staff have decided there's NO fatigue there afterall...... who would have "thunk" that ? :don't know
 
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jackfrost said:
Guess he had a good couple of nights sleep, the odd recovery sesh that is all the go these days apparently and the medical staff have decided there's NO fatigue there afterall...... who would have "thunk" that ? :don't know

funny, a couple of gold coast boys are having a "rest". their medical team must have decided there WAS fatigue. batchelor was out last week for 'soreness' while crameri for the dons, and vardy for the cats, both 1st year players are out this week with 'soreness'.
you seem to be denying young players may be benefitted by weeks off, clearly at least 1 afl club, and its professional medical and training team, disagree with you.