Baloo said:
He may well have but regardless of how you or I feel, I'm kinda glad that not everyone uses the sporting paddock to push their personal causes.
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Re: Adam Goodes
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He may well have but regardless of how you or I feel, I'm kinda glad that not everyone uses the sporting paddock to push their personal causes.
Chimptastic said:
If only he could behave like a white man.
As Eddie's predecessor suggested.
Baloo said:
I don't see any reason why they should feel otherwise.
Up until the last year or so, Adam Goodes had made himself a rich man with a good standing in the game. He had won medals and been involved in premierships.
There was no animosity shown towards him over his career and I am sure if there was, then Adam would have been the first to comment.
Did we as a community accept and tolerate Adam Goodes?
My answer is yes. You would have to ask Adam Goodes himself as to whether he felt tolerated and included up until circa 2013 though.
I cannot guess or assume what he felt but he did not seem unhappy and was performing well on the field also.
As he got older then he changed the way he played the game. He seemed more angry or frustrated and started to become nasty.
This is when I first started to dislike him and on occasion, boo him.
Dermie and Aker are two former players who understand what the fans are trying to say. It is a shame many others in the media would rather tow the party line and ignore what the masses are saying.
No, I cannot assume or guess what current day players are feeling however I do understand that there are pressures on individual players to make sure they don't say anything that could be deemed inflammatory as it could be used against them as an individual or against the team later on. The AFL may also step in depending on what they say and the PC brigade would never let the player survive. It is just not worth it.
Very similar to the drugs saga. Nothing to see there either until people dig deeper and there are players in clubs left right and centre taking and dealing in the stuff.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
I have not read a more heart breaking book than "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee." It's a history book about the European exploration of the American West written from the viewpoint of the Native American.
By comparison to the wider US community Native Americans are still disadvantaged from a economic and health viewpoint. At least that was the last stats I read.
And it's not just US and Australian indigenous people. Indigenous issues are found in South America, Canada, Asia (remoter areas) and even Europe to some degree.
IanG said:
I cannot read minds but maybe I have taken the same drugs that allows others to read minds and deem everyone a racist who boos? ;D
Sorry, I am being facetious but it is frustrating when many people seem to assume and know why all people are booing and calling them racists like everyone is booing for the same reason and that reason is because of his skin colour.
Chelsea said:
Do you think growing up, and especially now, people see Adam as half Scottish?
Or do you think growing up, and especially now, they see him as an uppity blackfella?
New York Tiger said:
Agree - and there is plenty of evidence/research that supports the fact that we are becoming less tolerant of others, less accepting of minority groups and our attitudes to "different peoples or religions" has hardened.
These are all real indicators that says Australian racism is growing or getting worse. Add that to the historical context and it does not paint a rosy picture sadly.
Chelsea said:
hmmmm - why does it come down to us having to accept .............and tolerate................??
BTW, did you know that Adam's traditional 4-year-old war cry (that has no history of war) was directed only to white members of the opposition crowd? He stated on his twitter page that he wasn't doing it towards the Indigenous members of the opposition crowd. He said it would be stupid to do it to Indigenous people, or something to that effect.
Do you guys know this?
How is that not racist? He's singled out the whites in the crowd, thrown an imaginary spear at them out of nowhere, then had a whinge when the entire nation wasn't already aware of this ancient 4-year-old tradition that quietly happened with a junior Indigenous team playing international footy overseas, in a pre-match setting.
His attitude was totally unacceptable, yet already murmurs of "racist" were building towards those who disagreed with the situation at the time.
I'm not sure how many people appreciate how Goodes was wrong about the war cry whinge. IMO shenanigans like that significantly contributed to the booing.
Do you guys know this?
How is that not racist? He's singled out the whites in the crowd, thrown an imaginary spear at them out of nowhere, then had a whinge when the entire nation wasn't already aware of this ancient 4-year-old tradition that quietly happened with a junior Indigenous team playing international footy overseas, in a pre-match setting.
His attitude was totally unacceptable, yet already murmurs of "racist" were building towards those who disagreed with the situation at the time.
I'm not sure how many people appreciate how Goodes was wrong about the war cry whinge. IMO shenanigans like that significantly contributed to the booing.
year of the tiger said:
You have to be careful when saying scientific research suggests Australian racism is getting worse. The meta-analysis results are clear. The more multicultural, the less racist. The more interactions between groups of people, the more 'like me' they feel.
Attitudes towards religion after 9/11 changed, as you'd expect. And attitudes towards minority groups such as the native Japanese Ainu people for example are quite low, but this can't be generalised to Indigenous Australians.
