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Re: Adam Goodes
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Re: Re: Round 17 - other games
I think the Australia day comments being referred to as invasion day p!ssed allot of ppl off, i also didn't like how he made an example of a 15 year old girl who probably doesn't even know what racism is.. Allot of things to dislike about goodes...
I dont boo at games ever, although living abroad i don't get a chance!
I think the Australia day comments being referred to as invasion day p!ssed allot of ppl off, i also didn't like how he made an example of a 15 year old girl who probably doesn't even know what racism is.. Allot of things to dislike about goodes...
I dont boo at games ever, although living abroad i don't get a chance!
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There's a whole heap of reasons Goodes is getting booed, some to do with him sliding in knees first at times n staging continuously for frees. Some for pushing his indigenous views in peoples faces. Some for simply the pea brained pack mentality, exacerbated by the media n officialdom instantly categorizing and trying to deny anyone the right to boo for whatever reason.
But , hey what the hell. Just lump everything into the white *smile* racist category, it's the easiest basket for the media to gorge on.
So what race is Goodes then if their not booing any of the other indigenous players that I thought were the same race as Goodes? Or am I just imagining the other players are the same race as Goodes?bruntonave. said:
There's a whole heap of reasons Goodes is getting booed, some to do with him sliding in knees first at times n staging continuously for frees. Some for pushing his indigenous views in peoples faces. Some for simply the pea brained pack mentality, exacerbated by the media n officialdom instantly categorizing and trying to deny anyone the right to boo for whatever reason.
But , hey what the hell. Just lump everything into the white *smile* racist category, it's the easiest basket for the media to gorge on.
IanG said:
Can't be bothered looking back for exact words. You referred to it being ignored (paraphrasing here sorry) that he said he didn't want the girl bullied and wanted her left alone. He still chose to publicly label, and as a result humiliate, her despite saying that. I was referring to his actions not matching his words at the time. I didn't mention afterwards at all. Could have been dealt with behind closed doors if the aim wasn't to single out the kid and I suspect he'd be copping a lot less flak now. The people I talk to about Goodes refer to the 13yo girl incident and the spear throwing at the crowd as the reasons they can't stand Goodes. Neither reason is racist. It's a direct reflection on his own behaviour.
Re: Re: Round 17 - other games
Did it *smile* you off?
If so, why?
It IS invasion day, that's why it pisses indigenous people off.
The two things you've listed about Goodes are both about him being outspoken.
The girl was 13 and turned out to be intellectually disabled, but she sure knew how to be racist.
Tigertough1974 said:
Did it *smile* you off?
If so, why?
It IS invasion day, that's why it pisses indigenous people off.
Tigertough1974 said:
The two things you've listed about Goodes are both about him being outspoken.
The girl was 13 and turned out to be intellectually disabled, but she sure knew how to be racist.
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If Goodes was not indigenous and had not been outspoken as australian of the year, this would not be happening.
That's how you characterise this?
Pushing 'indigenous views' in people's faces?
Which views are these?
What is it about them that is so unpleasant?
Neither, you are being either stupid or disingenuous.TigerMasochist said:
If Goodes was not indigenous and had not been outspoken as australian of the year, this would not be happening.
TigerMasochist said:
That's how you characterise this?
Pushing 'indigenous views' in people's faces?
Which views are these?
What is it about them that is so unpleasant?
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Racism is not imaginary. No doubt about that. It exists for all to see and it is an absolute indictment on our community.
It's not the reason Goodes gets booed though.
He gets booed because he plays for frees, plays the victim in contests while at the same time throwing in cheapies (eg squirrel grip), knocking Rance to the ground when Rance felled Franklin in a legitimate contest on a damp night.
Wouldn't matter to me whether he was white, black, Asian, European, I hate the bloke.
bruntonave. said:
Racism is not imaginary. No doubt about that. It exists for all to see and it is an absolute indictment on our community.
It's not the reason Goodes gets booed though.
He gets booed because he plays for frees, plays the victim in contests while at the same time throwing in cheapies (eg squirrel grip), knocking Rance to the ground when Rance felled Franklin in a legitimate contest on a damp night.
Wouldn't matter to me whether he was white, black, Asian, European, I hate the bloke.
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Yes it is.
How do you explain what is happening?
BrisTiger24 said:
Yes it is.
How do you explain what is happening?
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I thought I did. It's because he plays for frees, gives cheapies, is dirty.
If the only reason he is being booed is because he's indigenous, why doesn't Rioli get booed, Burgoyne (who I think is an absolutely amazing bloke).
bruntonave. said:
I thought I did. It's because he plays for frees, gives cheapies, is dirty.
If the only reason he is being booed is because he's indigenous, why doesn't Rioli get booed, Burgoyne (who I think is an absolutely amazing bloke).
Baloo said:
It might be the same argument, but the argument was wrong. Calling someone an ape has strong racial overtones for the majority of people, and that would no doubt prove correct in a vilification case.
Try taking someone to court if they called you a prick.
There's a difference and I'm pretty sure you know that.
But Goodes calling me racist because I called him a prick, doesn't make me racist, whether he thinks I am or not.
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Did it *smile* you off too?
And I'm not your pal.
Chiang Mai Tiger said:
Did it *smile* you off too?
And I'm not your pal.
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Do you really, honestly, think this is about poor sportsmanship?
You ask why it isn't happening to other indigenous players, you could ask why it isn't happening to other unsporting players. Or coaches.
BrisTiger24 said:
Do you really, honestly, think this is about poor sportsmanship?
You ask why it isn't happening to other indigenous players, you could ask why it isn't happening to other unsporting players. Or coaches.
IanG said:
That brings me back to my point. This whole thing is media driven. He did, but the media kept playing and playing the footage. This booing stuff was something only Hawthorn people were doing. The media pointed it out, cue moral outrage, and then it started happening at all games. The media want this to snowball because it gives them something to do. And now the AFL and Goodes himself are playing into it and it is going to become his legacy.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
assuming you want to donate money rather than time here are a few options, depending where you live there would be local opportunities for volunteering:
http://www.aief.com.au/
http://generationone.org.au/supporters/donating
http://www.unisa.edu.au/business-community/give-to-unisa/support-unisa/gavin-wanganeen-indigenous-scholarship-appeal/
