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Potential Father/Son thread
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DirtyDogTiger said:
very simple process, Father Son & aCADEMY GET DISCOUNT OF 25%, might be 20 % now
say someone bids for NAISH @ pick 10 , that equals 1395 point take away the discount of 25% & that leaves 1046 point, we would then need to come up with those points , ie picks 36,54 & 64 = 823 so we would go into deficit of 223 points
http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Points-draft-value.pdf
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-21/new-bidding-system-introduced-for-fatherson-and-northern-academy-players
I dont watch a lot but i think it was GF day with my overseas pass on AFL live, i watched him in an entire game, the kid was so outside he was at Richmond station, got 5 or so touches at best...Bully and others would have seen him more, but nothing to get overly excited about from what i saw, get excited about our 2 first rounders 
I was at that game live and saw Naish play for the 1st time and was very disappointed. Hopefully it was an off day or he was carrying an injury. Would love to hear from brightsiders who have seen more of him play as to what attributes he brings and where in the draft order scouts would have him at this early stage, (if at all). Saying that if he is good I hope others don't rate him so we pick him up cheaper.Tigertough1974 said:I dont watch a lot but i think it was GF day with my overseas pass on AFL live, i watched him in an entire game, the kid was so outside he was at Richmond station, got 5 or so touches at best...Bully and others would have seen him more, but nothing to get overly excited about from what i saw, get excited about our 2 first rounders
Thanks Ty,Ty Esler said:
Extracted the below, so all Tiger eyes will be on his under 18 Championship performances in 2017. Good luck to the lad.
Patrick Naish
Outside Midfielder (Northern Knights/Vic Metro)
15/01/1999 | 180cm | 67kg
Patrick Naish is the son of 161 game player Chris who played at both Richmond and Port Adelaide. Although Chris played for both clubs, Patrick only eligible for Richmond under the father-son rule. This year with high expectations on his shoulders, he has lived up to some of the hype from Tigers fans. Naish has played across half-back for most of the season for the Northern Knights, averaging 17 disposals. He is lively around the ball and provides a spark for his team going forward. At school football level, Naish has spent most of his time inside 50 using his speed and agility to get around his opponent. Naish has also worked on his contested ball winning, when rotating onto the ball. He is lightly framed and can at stages be pushed around in the contest, but his best positions appears likely to be on the outside. Richmond fans should be excited by what Naish brings and will be one that Tiger fans will watch carefully in the 2017 Under 18 Championships.
The hard questions still need to be asked about whether Naish is actually worth say the value of 2 x 3rd selections, don't they? That's the equivalent of say, two picks at the Garthwaite level, who may turn into a handy player. It will be interesting to see if other clubs even come with any bids for him.
I always rated his father, Chris. A quality SF and on-baller with quality skills and goal-sense. But I'd have to say he was mostly an outside player. No surprise that his son sounds similar. Given the plethora of SF/on-ballers we have now stockpiled, I just wonder a little about our overall strategy. So we take two good talls with our 1st rounders, then could be a long wait for them to develop. Meanwhile, how many of our SFs have really come on too?
Still think we should have looked harder for a genuine KPP this draft or from Rookie or PSD. Liked Sproule and others, club ignored Richards, Latham et al. Naish needs to really come on in 2017 IMHO before RFC commits definitely. Wish the kid all the best though, and hope he develops sharply.
I always rated his father, Chris. A quality SF and on-baller with quality skills and goal-sense. But I'd have to say he was mostly an outside player. No surprise that his son sounds similar. Given the plethora of SF/on-ballers we have now stockpiled, I just wonder a little about our overall strategy. So we take two good talls with our 1st rounders, then could be a long wait for them to develop. Meanwhile, how many of our SFs have really come on too?
Still think we should have looked harder for a genuine KPP this draft or from Rookie or PSD. Liked Sproule and others, club ignored Richards, Latham et al. Naish needs to really come on in 2017 IMHO before RFC commits definitely. Wish the kid all the best though, and hope he develops sharply.
leon said:
I think Naish will be worth a third rounder & a third round downgrade. We'll still get two players if we want them. This is why trading next year's second rounder for what turned out to be Caddy & Graham was such a smart play.
bullus_hit said:
So you think he should be an automatic pick just because he's a F/S. The Scum might just have made that mistake, with higher picks too, with Brown and Daicos Jnr. Not sure either will be that worthy.
And you haven't expressed any concern about our deficiency in KPPs, especially in back-up and development, elsewhere? Have replaced Vickery, McKenzie and McBean with Nankervis, 3:1 loss, plus Maric probably done.
Taken a load of SFs for the last three years. For 2017, unbalanced list. Unless you have a lot of confidence in Elton?
leon said:
Brown and Daicos were decent value once you factor in the discount, Brown played a good game in the All-Stars match, I think there's something to work with. Daicos is more quality over quantity at this stage but he's silk when he does get the ball. I'd expect plenty of improvement over the next few years.
The issue with talls should be addressed in the next draft, two first rounders puts us in a very strong position. I already have five players on the shortlist but there will be some others who emerge. I would have liked Ladhams with our only rookie pick this year but Clarke felt a small forward was the way to go. All things considered, it was probably the Maric retention that was the big head scratcher. As for Elton, never rated him, he's not a quick thinker, would have preferred Richards as insurance.
