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Pick 9 ND 2012 – Who should we pick?
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Good reports tigs! :clap
Mitch Clisby won't do his chances any harm after a cracking game for the Rooster's on the weekend.As you say tig's he's 23 now and looking very steady and professional on how he goe's about his business.Big game this weekend against the blood's to make the GF.
tigs2010 said:
Good reports tigs! :clap
Mitch Clisby won't do his chances any harm after a cracking game for the Rooster's on the weekend.As you say tig's he's 23 now and looking very steady and professional on how he goe's about his business.Big game this weekend against the blood's to make the GF.
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Great young fella as well Dave.
Comes from good stock
tigerdave said:
Great young fella as well Dave.
Comes from good stock
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Our best defender IMO is an out & out bloody ripper in Grimes but theres one hiccup, those damn hammies.
Then we have Rance, love him or hate him he will put himself on the line EVERY time.
Now what do we have left looking a few years ahead?
Griffiths? I like him a lot but is he a certain backman?
Post? Don't get me started with wilbur!
Astbury? He's a forward end of story there.
Derickx? From what I've seen of him in defence a big fat NO.
Looking 3-4 years ahead when the core group that should deliver us that elusive flag is in their prime 25-28 y.o.
The smaller backs seem pretty good to me but what about the big guys?
I would be shattered if we have an average backline when our young midfield guns are in their prime.
Who do we really have coming through in defence?
Im looking 4 years ahead Disco & Im am praying by then we haven't gone down the same path once again of recruiting forwards & trying/hoping they become KPD's.Disco08 said:
Our best defender IMO is an out & out bloody ripper in Grimes but theres one hiccup, those damn hammies.
Then we have Rance, love him or hate him he will put himself on the line EVERY time.
Now what do we have left looking a few years ahead?
Griffiths? I like him a lot but is he a certain backman?
Post? Don't get me started with wilbur!
Astbury? He's a forward end of story there.
Derickx? From what I've seen of him in defence a big fat NO.
Looking 3-4 years ahead when the core group that should deliver us that elusive flag is in their prime 25-28 y.o.
The smaller backs seem pretty good to me but what about the big guys?
I would be shattered if we have an average backline when our young midfield guns are in their prime.
Who do we really have coming through in defence?
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I do agree with you in some points Uncle, and I wouldn't be against us taking Plowman. However, our KPD stocks aren't as bad as you make them out to be. Rance and Grimes are guns, Griffiths has the potential to be better than both of them, and Chaplin seems likely. On top of that, we have Batchelor, who has proven that he can be excellent as a tall. That is 5 KPDs who have all proven themselves to be decent footballers. We also have another 3 who are happily developing at Coburg. The problem is the injuries.
Griffiths didn't get his shoulders screwed up this year which was a great sign. He did his knee and whacked his head a few times, but those you could say, were accidental and unlikely to occur again.
Grimes recently went to Germany to receive world-class treatment for his hamstring problems. Richmond came out and said the results were positive, we'll see next year how successful it was.
Plowman is a great attacking defender. He will give us flexibility in the backline and would eventually replace Chaplin. Furthermore, he could also be the key to release Griffiths in the forward line (Although I am starting to lean towards him being a defender.)
He is extremely talented and I do believe we need to look at bringing in another KPD. However, we also need a CHF and two midfielders. I don't see it as a need, yet, but as I said before, wouldn't be against it.
Uncle said:
I do agree with you in some points Uncle, and I wouldn't be against us taking Plowman. However, our KPD stocks aren't as bad as you make them out to be. Rance and Grimes are guns, Griffiths has the potential to be better than both of them, and Chaplin seems likely. On top of that, we have Batchelor, who has proven that he can be excellent as a tall. That is 5 KPDs who have all proven themselves to be decent footballers. We also have another 3 who are happily developing at Coburg. The problem is the injuries.
Griffiths didn't get his shoulders screwed up this year which was a great sign. He did his knee and whacked his head a few times, but those you could say, were accidental and unlikely to occur again.
Grimes recently went to Germany to receive world-class treatment for his hamstring problems. Richmond came out and said the results were positive, we'll see next year how successful it was.
Plowman is a great attacking defender. He will give us flexibility in the backline and would eventually replace Chaplin. Furthermore, he could also be the key to release Griffiths in the forward line (Although I am starting to lean towards him being a defender.)
He is extremely talented and I do believe we need to look at bringing in another KPD. However, we also need a CHF and two midfielders. I don't see it as a need, yet, but as I said before, wouldn't be against it.
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I only really disagree with Astbury. Thought he looked very much a backman when he first came up. If we get Chaplin that gives us double coverage at 3 KPD spots AFAICT, which should be enough to let us concentrate on other areas this off season. That also doesn't include Batchelor who could be a very effective 3rd tall defender for years if he develops.
Uncle said:
I only really disagree with Astbury. Thought he looked very much a backman when he first came up. If we get Chaplin that gives us double coverage at 3 KPD spots AFAICT, which should be enough to let us concentrate on other areas this off season. That also doesn't include Batchelor who could be a very effective 3rd tall defender for years if he develops.
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If you fix your midfield, the ball goes down to the backline less thus reducing the need for key backs.
I would rather go to war the keybacks we have plus Chaplin plus a vastly improved midfield with a Kennedy, Wines, McRae then have a Mr Plowman waiting in the wings.
If we get another A grade mid and a two solid core mids with our first three picks then we really can set and forget the midfield.
If you fix your midfield, the ball goes down to the backline less thus reducing the need for key backs.
I would rather go to war the keybacks we have plus Chaplin plus a vastly improved midfield with a Kennedy, Wines, McRae then have a Mr Plowman waiting in the wings.
If we get another A grade mid and a two solid core mids with our first three picks then we really can set and forget the midfield.
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On Chaplin (27yo next year) the issue for me is to what age do people really expect him to play to?
Plowman sounds a likely type but is he a KPD or a Batchelor type?
I do agree with the thinking but my point is along the lines of there will be a lot more depth in the midfielders than the KP sized defenders. I have no doubt what so ever that there will be quality mids still available up until our 3rd pick, its a matter of FJ & team picking correctly.
Yeah I thought Astbury would be very good in defence but unless he regains some speed & agility he looks a forward to me. Got no worries about the single man, he's a ripper but I don't see Chaplin being apart of our defence in 4 years time. Which means we need to draft another KPD this year or poach one in 3-4 years time.
Its also the main reason I'd rather have a 23yo Luke Delaney than a 27yo Chaplin.
The injuries are what worry me some what & other than the names you mention I dont really rate any others at AFL standard.Martin_Riewoldt said:
On Chaplin (27yo next year) the issue for me is to what age do people really expect him to play to?
Plowman sounds a likely type but is he a KPD or a Batchelor type?
SCOOP said:
I do agree with the thinking but my point is along the lines of there will be a lot more depth in the midfielders than the KP sized defenders. I have no doubt what so ever that there will be quality mids still available up until our 3rd pick, its a matter of FJ & team picking correctly.
Disco08 said:
Yeah I thought Astbury would be very good in defence but unless he regains some speed & agility he looks a forward to me. Got no worries about the single man, he's a ripper but I don't see Chaplin being apart of our defence in 4 years time. Which means we need to draft another KPD this year or poach one in 3-4 years time.
Its also the main reason I'd rather have a 23yo Luke Delaney than a 27yo Chaplin.
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He needs some meat on him, but will never shirk it
tigerdave said:
He needs some meat on him, but will never shirk it
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Chaplin is free, is a known quantity (Delaney is not), makes us better immediately, gives depth and flexibility, breathing space for youngsters to develop, is free, and potentially allows us to trade Post for something we can use. If we get 4 good years out of him we'll be happy. (And Delaney might be a free agent. Some 27yo will. Welcome to the new paradigm.)
But this is pick 9. I haven't seen much of the kids but I hope we're still throwing it at Tyson. Throw Post in (or out, depending how you look at it.
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Chaplin is free, is a known quantity (Delaney is not), makes us better immediately, gives depth and flexibility, breathing space for youngsters to develop, is free, and potentially allows us to trade Post for something we can use. If we get 4 good years out of him we'll be happy. (And Delaney might be a free agent. Some 27yo will. Welcome to the new paradigm.)
But this is pick 9. I haven't seen much of the kids but I hope we're still throwing it at Tyson. Throw Post in (or out, depending how you look at it.
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Where would you tip him to go on the day Gus?
I hope we're at least considering him, IMO he's exactly what we need, outside class with bagfuls of 'x-factor' 8-
Where would you tip him to go on the day Gus?
I hope we're at least considering him, IMO he's exactly what we need, outside class with bagfuls of 'x-factor' 8-
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Dayle Garlett Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2JT1OkosP8
Dayle Garlett Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2JT1OkosP8
