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Pick 72: Ryan Garthwaite

Rancey18 said:
Bearing in mind he was picked up in the 70s, some might have to temper expectations of him to stop any future disappointment. Lots of big name comparisons flying about currently. Let him develop and hopefully show some signs this year at VFL level.

Nah stuff that. He'll be a gun.
 
DirtyDogTiger said:
Royce hart was 187cms if I recall

Jack Dyer was a ruck and 185cm tall.

There was a chart some years back in one of the football mags, thinking Inside Football but could be wrong, which showed the growth in size and height over the decades in VFL/AFL footballers.
 
I like the way 'Garth' guides it onto his foot much better than players who let it go too high. This makes him more consistent which is shown in his stats.
Worst thing Frank said was "we're going to fix his kicking style". I say leave him alone seeing as his coaches have already said he's been working on it and he has a history of excellent accuracy. DON"T CHANGE SOMETHING THAT'S WORKING.
Why did people want to change Travis Cloke? Because his style WASN'T working for him.

Have all golfers had the same "ideal technique"...NO. Major winners Lee Trevino, Jim Furyk, etc. had unorthodox swings yet they got the job done for two very important reasons...It felt NATURAL for THEM and THEY could REPEAT IT. That's why 'Garth' kicks the way he does.

Here's one for the older supporters...John 'ragsy' Gould of Carlton....takes the cake for horrible looking kicks. He let the ball go with both hands way too high but at 184cm and 76kg he played CHB in 2 premiership sides 1968,1970. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT3JyK2c5ig
What he excelled in was his judgement, marking, handball and agility/recovery.
 
tigermike said:
Have all golfers had the same "ideal technique"...NO. Major winners Lee Trevino, Jim Furyk, etc. had unorthodox swings yet they got the job done for two very important reasons...It felt NATURAL for THEM and THEY could REPEAT IT. That's why 'Garth' kicks the way he does.
And likewise, I compare it to bowling in cricket. Do all bowlers have the 'ideal' action? Absolutely not. Take the late Max Walker for instance. Apparently in his early years of cricket in Tasmania, his bowling action put many coaches/selectors off and hence he chose footy over cricket. Only to switch back to cricket after moving to Melbourne to play footy for Melbourne FC. And had a very successful career at international level as a fast/medium bowler.
 
tigermike said:
I like the way 'Garth' guides it onto his foot much better than players who let it go too high. This makes him more consistent which is shown in his stats.
Worst thing Frank said was "we're going to fix his kicking style". I say leave him alone seeing as his coaches have already said he's been working on it and he has a history of excellent accuracy. DON"T CHANGE SOMETHING THAT'S WORKING.
Why did people want to change Travis Cloke? Because his style WASN'T working for him.

Have all golfers had the same "ideal technique"...NO. Major winners Lee Trevino, Jim Furyk, etc. had unorthodox swings yet they got the job done for two very important reasons...It felt NATURAL for THEM and THEY could REPEAT IT. That's why 'Garth' kicks the way he does.

Here's one for the older supporters...John 'ragsy' Gould of Carlton....takes the cake for horrible looking kicks. He let the ball go with both hands way too high but at 184cm and 76kg he played CHB in 2 premiership sides 1968,1970. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT3JyK2c5ig
What he excelled in was his judgement, marking, handball and agility/recovery.

VERY difficult TO READ when someone is ALWAYS capslocking things..
 
The problem with Darryl's ball-guide is that although it allows him to kick accurately, it takes a relative age to set up for. He's not going to have the time to be that careful at AFL level.
 
spook said:
The problem with Darryl's ball-guide is that although it allows him to kick accurately, it takes a relative age to set up for. He's not going to have the time to be that careful at AFL level.

Darryl ?
 
As a 30 year golf instructor the only position that matters is IMPACT
how the club gets there really doesnt matter .
With regards to kicking a ball the IMPACT again is the key here its either good or its not ...
 
Panthera Tigris said:
And likewise, I compare it to bowling in cricket. Do all bowlers have the 'ideal' action? Absolutely not. Take the late Max Walker for instance. Apparently in his early years of cricket in Tasmania, his bowling action put many coaches/selectors off and hence he chose footy over cricket. Only to switch back to cricket after moving to Melbourne to play footy for Melbourne FC. And had a very successful career at international level as a fast/medium bowler.
There was a very good reason Maxy had the nick of Tangles.
Watch his action n he should never have been a bowler anywhere, somehow made it work well enough to bowl in the baggy green alongside a couple of plodders called Lillee n Thommo.

Pretty bloody risky trying to change his natural kicking action at this stage. If he's comfortable n competent as he is then anything more than a minor polish to his action will more likely be disastrous.


Aaaaargh! Can't believe I misspelt the great DK's surname. Can't believe no one picked me up n bagged the suitcase out of me for stuffing it up. Fixed now n seriously disappointed I could have been so stupid.
 
gutfull said:
As a 30 year golf instructor the only position that matters is IMPACT
how the club gets there really doesnt matter .
With regards to kicking a ball the IMPACT again is the key here its either good or its not ...
He seems to sky it a bit, which suggests his IMPACT is not ideal.
 
gutfull said:
As a 30 year golf instructor the only position that matters is IMPACT
how the club gets there really doesnt matter .
With regards to kicking a ball the IMPACT again is the key here its either good or its not ...
LOL As a 30 year user of golf instructors, how it gets there influences attack angle, approach angle and club head speed, all of which matter. It still amuses me that until this century your profession didn't even understand the physics of ball flight that create draws and fades. For the interested reader is influenced by clubhead path and clubface angle at impact. ie how the club gets there as well as its impact position.
 
Dyer'ere said:
Garthwaite has a plan for the ball. Sometimes the plan is inspired. The handball at 1:05 is the one I vividly remember. He's got a plan.

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I watched for that handball on your direction Jack...... I'd have a hole in my TV is he did that in the seniors
 
He's 17yo. He hit the target, H. It all took place in .75 sec.

I see that moment as a touchstone.
 
H tiger said:
I watched for that handball on your direction Jack...... I'd have a hole in my TV is he did that in the seniors
Dustin Fletchers spawn. Man he looks the part. I tip he wil play next year.
 
Kid seems to read the play and make good decisions, to my mind that's three qtrs of the job covered. Got some growing n learning to do over the next couple of years before I bother to start worrying about his awkward kicking style.