Do people really think we're going to trade our best mid 20yo players, Bolton, Rioli, Graham, Baker leaving nothing left in a 4 year age group? We're really reaching the realms of fantasy land now. Our focus will be on retiring the older players and using our current picks to acquire higher picks and remove some of the deadwood, not to decimate the quality of our list. Makes no sense and is a fallacy. Club has indicated previously that we're aiming for 2 or 3 first round draft picks.
Facts, logic and reason drives the debate, gaslighting is obnoxious and irritating.Meh, it drives the debate
You are overly sensitiveFacts, logic and reason drives the debate, gaslighting is obnoxious and irritating.
I'll cut Shai a bit of slack for the "truckload more work on the ground" that he does. I watch Stengel closely, he doesn't just hang around the forward pocket, he gets a up the ground a lot, it doesn't seen to effect his accuracy.It's true Bolton's goal kicking accuracy isn't great but not really fair comparing the two as Bolton does a truckload more work on the ground as he spends a reasonable amount of midfield time as opposed to a full-time forward. Overall Bolton's season and career stats are free superior to Stengle's.
he's been doing it all day!You are overly sensitive
Me saying that keeping our eminently tradable players is “conservative” is hardly antagonistic
Get your hand off it
Carter and the Baron are the same glorious entityhe's been doing it all day!
That was just one in a conga line of irritating gaslighting dismissals. By pretending it was a single case, is just more of it. But to be clear, its annoyong
I guarantee you Bolton does a lot more gut running than Stengle in a typical game due to his position. Below is heat map of their last couple of games. You can also see typically many disposals are quite close to goal for Stengle which also aids with accuracy. I think you'll find most of the mids have poorer conversion rates for the reason of fatigue in the moment. I just don't think it' s a fair comparison acknowledging that Bolton does need to do better in that area.I'll cut Shai a bit of slack for the "truckload more work on the ground" that he does. I watch Stengel closely, he doesn't just hang around the forward pocket, he gets a up the ground a lot, it doesn't seen to effect his accuracy.
If Baker, Bolton, Graham & Rioli leave (which is what I was referring to) this is what we're left with in the 23 to 27 year old age group. God help us.I am wary of trading Rioli.
Baker is overrated. There, I said it. I’ll continue that in his thread.
Bolton is a jewel that will never be as valuable as it is now. We don’t need the jewel, he is not contributing to our next push anytime soon.
That still leaves us with Balta, Rioli, Taranto, etc
There’s still plenty there, we’re not tearing a hole in the space time continuum lol
So be it.If Baker, Bolton, Graham & Rioli leave (which is what I was referring to) this is what we're left with in the 23 to 27 year old age group. God help us.
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No I'm not forgetting. I just don't think the Tigers are going to offload 4 players of similar age to only leave us with 2 of the same type of midfielders on 7 year contracts and a gun backman being turned into a forward as our only half-decent representatives in that age bracket. I don't think our contracted players are going anywhere. I can possibly see Baker or Graham moving on. We'll know in time. 21 players uncontracted for 2025 to make decisions on.So be it.
With an influx of good kids you are forgetting that we will have cap space for astute FA.
When the time is right.
Like we did with Meatball, Nank and Caddy
Fatigue is part of it, technique the main factor.I guarantee you Bolton does a lot more gut running than Stengle in a typical game due to his position. Below is heat map of their last couple of games. You can also see typically many disposals are quite close to goal for Stengle which also aids with accuracy. I think you'll find most of the mids have poorer conversion rates for the reason of fatigue in the moment. I just don't think it' s a fair comparison acknowledging that Bolton does need to do better in that area.
I can possibly see Baker or Graham moving on.
As long as you're aware of it. Carry on I suppose.And both share a conspicuous lack of care whether you find it annoying or not.
What are you hoping to trade Shai for and which players are you hoping to draft with those picks?Fair enough TL. If this is all that happens it will be a huge opportunity missed IMO
I am not across the pool but I would hope our recruiting staff would start building the list back upWhat are you hoping to trade Shai for and which players are you hoping to draft with those picks?
All 3 of those were trades not free agency.So be it.
With an influx of good kids you are forgetting that we will have cap space for astute FA.
When the time is right.
Like we did with Meatball, Nank and Caddy
yes and you can add trades to the toolbox, the point still stands FFSAll 3 of those were trades not free agency.