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Pick 17, 20 & 25
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the worry with hayes is that many many ruckmen whom get slaughtered by their lower endurance appear to end up not been competitive enough,nankervis for a young ruckman has a huge tank,but guys like angus graham, vickery,never improved their tanks enough to become afl standard rucks, it also led them to not applying any pressure, not chasing, not doing the one percenters, if hayes has a competitive streak and is good in these common poor ruck areas, i would still consider him for pick 25 he averages 14-15 touches a game, that is pretty good for a ruckmen, i would look at his second half to last quater efforts to gauge if he falls out of games rapidly, a trait that is deadly at afl level.
bullus_hit said:
Definitely Swans,Doggies,Crows i would say are the most likely
Im just hoping that there isnt a bid on Naish until after 25
Would love to get 3 top rated kids + Naish
With our success only playing 1 ruckman I think the speed and tackling stuff is now almost more important than the rucking skills - you can no longer carry a second ruckman in the starting 22.
If the view is there is a question mark on their tank then I would steer clear personally
Edited so it now makes sense ;D
If the view is there is a question mark on their tank then I would steer clear personally
Edited so it now makes sense ;D
Need to double down on pace endurance and pressure. Look at cellis miles and lloyd for example, for all their ability they couldn't get games ahead of george butler rioli lambert mcintosh etc for the pure fact they didn't have the athletic ability. Other teams will come at us in this area and we need to keep recruiting these types.
bullus_hit said:
What comparison is Hayes to English who was taken last year at 19. Wasn't he initially thought of as being top 10 and then slid and slid. Was that due to his tank? If so and a top 10 drops to late teens then certainly a chance Hayes drops at least to the mid 20's you'd think.
mrposhman said:
English had a reasonable tank, was actually a talented midfielder before the growth spurt. I think the big question mark was the time needed for him to add bulk to his frame without compromising his athleticism. For Hayes it will be an uphill battle from here, he's not a crash & bash ruckman so will have to rely on superior athleticism, something which he doesn't already have. He's not a bad forward but certainly not a position he will nail down full-time. I have him pegged somewhere in the 25-50 range.
Tony Braxton-Hicks
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Let's stick to the tried and true of nabbing a value ruckman who's done his apprenticeship, when and if required. Nankervis. Maric. (Hampson.)
Tony Braxton-Hicks said:
The think about drafting them is that we can AND WILL trade them if they aren’t up to scratch.
With Nank, Ivan II and Hampers we have sufficient coverage. Unlikely to play 2 at once.
Tobes is still young so we should be set for 5+years
So it would be a no from me on hayes or a meek project. (But what do i know)
I like worpel and would partner with Graham for our future.
but inside mids are available each year at pick 18.
If not this year then next.
Every second year, on average, should be the best mid
So if available i'd take the punt on Bonar. Possible star.
Only 1 knee injury but 2 ops on it, so not necessarily an injury risk
Tobes is still young so we should be set for 5+years
So it would be a no from me on hayes or a meek project. (But what do i know)
I like worpel and would partner with Graham for our future.
but inside mids are available each year at pick 18.
If not this year then next.
Every second year, on average, should be the best mid
So if available i'd take the punt on Bonar. Possible star.
Only 1 knee injury but 2 ops on it, so not necessarily an injury risk
Hopeful our recruiters can commit daylight robbery again and snag Bonar, TD. He's rocketing up draft boards unfortunately.
Hoping Bonar is still on the board @ 17 and no Naish bid before hand.
Tall X factor is what we need.
Tall X factor is what we need.
