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Pick 12 discussion.

bullus_hit said:
Wright can take a grab, he just doesn't hustle & bustle like a Roughie. If we overlook him for another vanilla, and then get caught with our pants down if Maric loses steam, the spotlight will firmly be on all our list managers. The clock is now officially ticking, we have 4 years to make a serious tilt, can't afford any missteps.

Aren't Griffo, Vickery, Hampson, Beano, Elton and Soldo enough rucks for short-term?
 
TigerForce said:
Aren't Griffo, Vickery, Hampson, Beano, Elton and Soldo enough rucks for short-term?

If Wright is better than that list, or even half that list, draft him and trade off one of the others down the track.
 
Baloo said:
If Wright is better than that list, or even half that list, draft him and trade off one of the others down the track.
could argue he'd be ahead of McBean based on size and seems to be a better kick than Hampson (wouldn't be hard) so only behind Vickery/Griffo at this stage?
 
Baloo said:
If Wright is better than that list, or even half that list, draft him and trade off one of the others down the track.

Wright is better than all of them, his ruck work is also being greatly undersold by the media, he's more than capable in the centre square and has the potential to be a very dangerous option in the forward line. It's not often we get the opportunity to draft a tall who's incredibly fit, quick and can kick like a true spearhead. The upside is huge, it has the potential to take us forward as a club. Mids are a dime a dozen, Peter Wright's fall into your lap once in a blue moon. Let's just hope that Wells is preoccupied with speed.
 
bullus_hit said:
Wright is better than all of them, his ruck work is also being greatly undersold by the media, he's more than capable in the centre square and has the potential to be a very dangerous option in the forward line. It's not often we get the opportunity to draft a tall who's incredibly fit, quick and can kick like a true spearhead. The upside is huge, it has the potential to take us forward as a club. Mids are a dime a dozen, Peter Wright's fall into your lap once in a blue moon. Let's just hope that Wells is preoccupied with speed.

So you think pick 33?
 
TigerForce said:
So you think pick 33?

In a perfect world we get Wright at 12, McKenzie/Menadue at 33, Bampton at 52 & Daniel at 70. That's four holes addressed in one swoop.
 
17 said:
Indeed.
I think in the past Richmond on draft day have shown that when they have their heart set on a player, they don't have a coherent plan B when things go awry.
The classic was of course the total confusion Hawthorn caused us in 2004 with the Roughead spoiler.
Even last year when preferred pick Salem went and the boys plumped for Lennon smelt a bit like desperation.
The unanimous public declarations of "sticking to the plan" to drafting a midfielder do have me worried that if Wright falls to 12, we won't have the balls to ditch our "plan" and do the bleedin' obvious.

Plumped for Lennon? Cmon 17. He was top 10 for ages, we were stoked he was still on the board at 12. Had Salem and Lennon both been on the board at 12 I reckon we still would have gone Lennon. We loved what we saw of him as an AIS kid when he trained with us, and all the boys got on well with him.
 
bullus_hit said:
In a perfect world we get Wright at 12, McKenzie/Menadue at 33, Bampton at 52 & Daniel at 70. That's four holes addressed in one swoop.

I'd say we'd lock in a mid at 12 and risk Wright at 33 (if the club thinks we need him)
 
TigerForce said:
I'd say we'd lock in a mid at 12 and risk Wright at 33 (if the club thinks we need him)

You may as well forget about him in that scenario, Wright is also significantly faster than both Ellis & Duggan, tall athletic types like this don't fall off trees. His scope is huge.
 
tigerdave said:
Seems like a Jack Darling scenario.

Darling dropped due to discipline queries, Wright is dropping for 2 reasons I believe, the first being a little foxing on his behalf that he wants to play in Victoria, the second being Collingwood have Moore and will go small. There's no chance he'll get past Richmond in my opinion, Geelong may go for speed or a key defender, in which case we pounce.

Inspector said:
Will Weller be still around at 12 barracked for the Tigers looks like a good prospect but better judges than me on here!

Excellent prospect, if he's available and Wright's off the table then we have a better than good consolation prize.
 
Should they both be available who is the better selection between Ahern & Weller. (Both well ahead of Ellis on available evidence)?
 
bullus_hit said:
In a perfect world we get Wright at 12, McKenzie/Menadue at 33, Bampton at 52 & Daniel at 70. That's four holes addressed in one swoop.
No love for Miller at 33?
 
ABOUT this time last year, Liam Duggan hoped he would be good enough to get drafted, but he wasn't sure. So he set himself to improve, and add more elements to his game.

Until this season, the small left-footer had been used mostly as a rebounding, neat-kicking defender. But he wanted to become more than that, and worked hard at his midfield craft.

In the early parts of the season, Duggan started his transition further up the ground, and immediately impressed in ball-winning roles.

Duggan plays for the Western Jets in the TAC Cup but lives on the border of North Ballarat's region in Bacchus Marsh, and he captained St Patrick's College to another school title this season.


Duggan is the player who you'd want with the ball if you need someone to control a situation. He'll pick the right time to slow things down, but also has the nous to be ready to take things on, tuck the ball under his arm and go for a run.

He showed this season he can play all over the ground: as a deep small defender, an attacking half-back, a free-wheeling wingman, and a pretty complete midfielder.

He proved that last part late in the TAC Cup season, when he gathered 30 disposals and laid 12 tackles for the Jets against the Gippsland Power. He also used his elite foot skills in attack, kicking 14 goals for the Jets this season.

Duggan (who stands 183cm and 75kg) is an outstanding leader, one who stands up in games, speaks well off the field, looks you in the eye and can talk comfortably to anyone. Winning the Ben Mitchell Medal, as the standout of the AIS-AFL Academy intake, was testament to that.

It's no wonder clubs thought he was one of the best players to interview throughout the season, with many recognising his captaincy traits.


At the start of the year you might have wondered whether Duggan had the inside game to be an effective midfielder at AFL level, but that isn't a question any more.

Click here to check out Liam Duggan's draft profile and watch his 2014 highlights

In fact, there really aren't too many faults against him and what he doesn't have in blistering speed (he runs a 3.1-second 20-metre sprint) he makes up for in smarts. He might not have a big point of difference, but a club will get a very rounded prospect.


Duggan has a little bit of Nick Dal Santo to him in his neat and sharp disposal, his creativity with the ball, and his poise under pressure. Not much seems to fuss Duggan wherever he's playing, whoever he's playing against, and whatever the situation.


Duggan has continued his steady rise throughout the season and is in the mix as a top-10 pick. There's no risk about him, and many clubs would like him to be theirs.


Duggan ticks two important boxes: he's a safe bet, and he's still got heaps of room to improve. With his 18th birthday in December, Duggan will be one of the few players in the draft to walk into an AFL club as a 17-year-old. A classy, composed player getting better and better.
 
Dal Santo is a really good player comparison for Duggan IMO. He'll be a very good player.
 
We have dal santo type players. If we want to progress up the ladder we need diff types of players. Diversity. This is speed and x factor. We can get solid citizen footballers later in draft.
X factor first pick then Go for 3 solid mid types later if u like.
Nakia is too dynamic to pass IMO and will add much much more if he hits anywhere near his potential than any Duggan or Ellis ever will.
Gotta be bold if u wanna improve. Looks like we will play it safe tho :(