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Pick 12 discussion.

Gus said:
In Brett Anderson's IF draft we have 12/ Duggan 33/ McLean and 52/ Goodyear

Not sure I would be over the moon with those selections, reckon McLean is too high & Goodyear's KE was 50% this year. Compare that with say Daniel McKenzie who was travelling at 70% and it's pretty clear who is the better prospect.
 
St Kevin said:
I reckon he'll go before 33. Having a feeling he'll be top 25ish. His leadership skills are rated extremely highly.

Yeah sadly I agree. I'm hoping for one of Miller, Gore or Neal-Bullen at 33 - only 50/50 that even one will be there IMO
 
SCOOP said:
BUt by taking Hunt and limiting our picks & pledging to build the midfield, the club will over look Wright if he is there.

Backed ourselves into a corner.
Why does taking Hunt limit our picks ? Go with 39 on the senior list, still take 4ND picks and just take one less rookie.

I suspect that is the plan.
 
SCOOP said:
Brodie Grundy again. There is no legit reason for this unless a injury or attitude concerns have surfaced. If Wright was on the board for our pick, I'd take him. No question. Stockpile assets & get aggressive at the trade table. Forget list structure, if someone has been in the top 4 all year and falls after the season and after the combine with no real change in circumstances, it's a self perpetuating myth and clubs fall into line too scared to take the guy everyone is passing on.

BUt by taking Hunt and limiting our picks & pledging to build the midfield, the club will over look Wright if he is there.

Backed ourselves into a corner.

It's a double edged sword.. Get the better player but wait 1-4 years before they are a dominate part of your structure ( and for mine with his forward smarts/kicking-marking he would be a direct replacement for vickery)..

Or you try to build a list that gets you to a GF in the next 1-3/4 years which they are in the process...

Can't see RFC deviate from plan, not sure it's a good or bad thing, time will tell but I don't think we have a list manager who is so aggressive, that's both good and bad.. Ie voss'ys desires.....

Opportunities though which are always good :)
 
SCOOP said:
Brodie Grundy again. There is no legit reason for this unless a injury or attitude concerns have surfaced. If Wright was on the board for our pick, I'd take him. No question. Stockpile assets & get aggressive at the trade table. Forget list structure, if someone has been in the top 4 all year and falls after the season and after the combine with no real change in circumstances, it's a self perpetuating myth and clubs fall into line too scared to take the guy everyone is passing on.

With Maric on his last legs we could do a lot worse than Peter Wright, at worst he becomes our next number 1 ruck, at best he becomes the CHF we've been screaming out for.
 
Absolutely correct. If Wright is on the board - We take him

Maric 3/4 years then we have Who ??

Just have to be bloody good with selections #33/#52/#70 and selecting mids

And also need to pick up 2 FA Mids next year but the structure will be good
 
bullus_hit said:
With Maric on his last legs we could do a lot worse than Peter Wright, at worst he becomes our next number 1 ruck, at best he becomes the CHF we've been screaming out for.

Bully, do you think he can play CHF in next 1-2 years and return 35-50 goals a year, if the answer is yes than I think that's the mindset, I think they are sticking to the plan of structure, so unless he can replace TV I don't think Dimma and many of the coaches really over value ruck men, although Ivan is an exception due to what he brings to the team and players..

If they stick to the current plan and are locked and loaded then I'd say TV or Griff will take over whilst developing IvanM11 and run with that (needing to sort out our forward line and add mid field grunt).. So if we go the wright option he would need to be the CHF as he wouldn't be main ruck in next few years and we've lost a (hopefully) very good inside mid (Blakely) with Wright selection, which we need Now..... I think they are sticking with the plan
 
Ripplestick said:
Kruezers body might be shot.
That's what I was thinking, big Kruez struggles to get on the park n stay there.
If Wright drops then on talent you'd obviously take him n work around your midfield needs another way, there's always pretty good spare mids scattered through the draft. Tuck the big kid away in the magoos for a couple of years to learn his craft n build his body.
Decent big fellas Vickery, Griff, are always worth overs at the trade table so it doesn't hurt to have a mature spare one to sell if you have the right quality coming through.
Not sold on either of Hamster, Elton John, or the Eevan mk 2, journeymen at best to my way of thinking so there'd need to be a clean out if a Wright fell into our lap.
 
Wight couldn't get past GWS with their 3 picks surely. They just lost gun kp in Boyd. U would think they would want a replacement. Cameron Patton inj prone already and that long haired kp fwd. Surely they take wright.
 
Don't think they will. Lavender is a lock for them and Pickett, Lever, Goddard & Langford being considered for 6 & 7
 
bullus_hit said:
With Maric on his last legs we could do a lot worse than Peter Wright, at worst he becomes our next number 1 ruck, at best he becomes the CHF we've been screaming out for.

We took Vickery at pick 8 and for me Wright is far more advanced then TV was at the same age. Wright is already 102kgs. He presents at the ball. And takes it in front of his face. He doesn't jump when he doesn't have too on the lead, just puts the arms out in front of his eyes. I like that a lot. The other thing I like about Wright is that he attacks the ball in a pack and jumps into it, doesn't look for contact first or try and get it over the top out the back. If we took Wright, we really would be in a position to get another pick inside 15-40 for the next two drafts by trading off falls. ANd for all the Griffith's hype, he still needs to put it together longer then 8 weeks. If Wright is on the board, we must take him.
 
Yep, if we're serious about going best available and Wright's available, he'll be a tiger
 
Tigertough1974 said:
Bully, do you think he can play CHF in next 1-2 years and return 35-50 goals a year, if the answer is yes than I think that's the mindset, I think they are sticking to the plan of structure, so unless he can replace TV I don't think Dimma and many of the coaches really over value ruck men, although Ivan is an exception due to what he brings to the team and players..

If they stick to the current plan and are locked and loaded then I'd say TV or Griff will take over whilst developing IvanM11 and run with that (needing to sort out our forward line and add mid field grunt).. So if we go the wright option he would need to be the CHF as he wouldn't be main ruck in next few years and we've lost a (hopefully) very good inside mid (Blakely) with Wright selection, which we need Now..... I think they are sticking with the plan

One thing that's certain is talls like Peter Wright don't come around too often, we baulked at Grundy and that to me was a mistake, particularly given we were scrounging around for a ruckman last year and had to settled for our third preference. Peter Wright has the potential to be a major weapon, for starters he would be the tallest CHF in the league by quite some margin. At 203cm he could also be the perfect foil for Maric, at least until he builds up and assumes number one ruck duties himself.

Midway through the year he was being talked up as the number 1 pick, this was coming on the back of some monumental performances in the TAC. Against the Eastern Ranges he had 19 touches, 8 contested marks and kicked 10 goals, 1 behind. Two weeks later against NT he had 21 touches, kicked 7.5 and took 6 contested marks. The next week another 19 possessions, 7 contested marks and 7 goals.

Do I believe he can hold down CHF? I give him a 60/40 chance of succeeding, his one on one ability isn't as impressive as say McCartin but his style is also completely different. Much like Vickery he outstretches his opponents instead of out muscling them, as he gains strength he may even develop an extra string to his bow, this will make him a nightmare match-up. The beauty with Wright is he can also play in the ruck, I prefer him as a forward but then again I preferred Ottens as a forward too. Things can change pretty quickly in football and players can adapt to the circumstances.

Wright's stocks cannot dip below a top 20 pick IMO, if he struggles at CHF then he will be an able ruckman who will demand a first round pick in the event he gets traded. He would also provide some leverage if we decide to cut Vickery loose, I say it would be too good an opportunity to pass up.