Pick 12 discussion.

[Col.E.Kurtz]

I doubt it, could be just nerves, the whole combine experience can be very intimidating.

That's about right, although Freeman represents a massive risk and doesn't strike me as an FJ selection.

As a Johnny come lately to the Freeman discussion I must say I do find him interesting. Athletic upside makes him intriguing.

But you are right, he doesn't have that can't miss "recruit I would take home to meet my mother" quality that FJ likes.

 

[Tigerfan]

As a Johnny come lately to the Freeman discussion I must say I do find him interesting. Athletic upside makes him intriguing.

But you are right, he doesn't have that can't miss "recruit I would take home to meet my mother" quality that FJ likes.

I know what they say about highlights but based on what the AFL put up - Lennon is my hope unless Scharenberg slides to 12.

 

[blx]

Lennon is the exact type we need. I see him as a potential Pavlich MK2.

yes, because he impressed while here id say hes odds on but i still think Lewis Taylor fullfills much more of a need than a another HFF.

How do his combine [god i hate using that american term] results compare with Jack Riewoldts?

 

[BrisTiger24]

Just perusing highlights again.

Anyone have concerns with Lennon's decision making?

No doubt he is a long accurate kick. With the goals in front of him he is dynamite.

However, I thought a few times, spotting up a target in fwd 50, he made poor decisions. Eg, kicking it to Billings when he was one out against two taller guys.

For anyone that has seen him outside of just the Champs, is this a concern or perhaps a couple of isolated incidents?

 

[Stylo]

Lennon's one of the better decision makers slash football brains in the draft IMO

 

[Tony Braxton-Hicks]

If Madonna comes along, he's shown he can play as a Porplyzia forward type at lower levels and has been developing himself as a mid at Coburg. Does Lennon duplicate that or offer something substantially different?

At various stages this year we've lacked run and carry whenever White or Houli were missing. White's gone, Newman is near the end and Foley hasn't shown his dash for a while so I wonder whether we need a line-breaker like Freeman, Taylor or Hartung more than Lennon.

 

[Harry]

At various stages this year we've lacked run and carry whenever White or Houli were missing. White's gone, Newman is near the end and Foley hasn't shown his dash for a while so I wonder whether we need a line-breaker like Freeman, Taylor or Hartung more than Lennon.

my thoughts also. don't think dimma and FJ rate pacey on-ballers though.

 

[bullus_hit]

How do his combine [god i hate using that american term] results compare with Jack Riewoldts?

Lennon tested poorly in the jumping tests so he doesn't possess the qualities that will make him an outstanding pack mark. He's probably quicker than Jack (I'm going on his repeat sprints) and his tank would be roughly the same. I think we should be sizing him up as a Ryan O'Keefe/Michael O'Loughlin style HFF, or if we send him down back, a Robert Murphy type rebounding defender.

At various stages this year we've lacked run and carry whenever White or Houli were missing. White's gone, Newman is near the end and Foley hasn't shown his dash for a while so I wonder whether we need a line-breaker like Freeman, Taylor or Hartung more than Lennon.

This is true, with White gone it's imperative we either grab a solid SLR player like Chris Cain, or grab a pacy crumber at 50. There's no doubt that FJ places speed and x-factor very low on his list of priorities, which is all good and well, but at a bare minimum we should be grabbing some mosquito fleet players with late picks. History tells us that guys like Walters, Garlett, Betts, Stokes and Ballantyne can be picked up late so it's time to get cracking on this front. Whilst I like the Batsanis development, I'll be disappointed if Frank uses pick 68 and overlooks a promising junior.

Just perusing highlights again.

Anyone have concerns with Lennon's decision making?

No doubt he is a long accurate kick. With the goals in front of him he is dynamite.

However, I thought a few times, spotting up a target in fwd 50, he made poor decisions. Eg, kicking it to Billings when he was one out against two taller guys.

For anyone that has seen him outside of just the Champs, is this a concern or perhaps a couple of isolated incidents?

He's one of the most efficient kicks in the TAC, no problems there.

 

[D85]

I think repeat sprints is a better indication of pace than one off sprints, especially with the way the game is headed with reduced rotations. Repeat sprints is more transferable as a measure in my opinion.

 

[Leysy Days]

What was Lennon like in that area anyone know?

 

[bullus_hit]

What was Lennon like in that area anyone know?

25.25 for repeat sprints (58%) & 3.18 for 20m (27%)

 

[Col.E.Kurtz]

3.18 for 20m (27%)

*ugh* I knew this already, but it doesn't look any better each time I see it.

 

[Leysy Days]

25.25 for repeat sprints (58%) & 3.18 for 20m (27%)

Thanks Bully. That repeat sprint time is not too bad then.

But if that 20m time is a true reflection he'll need to be very good in tight to compensate because as a leadup player at his size he might struggle at AFL level.

 

[bullus_hit]

Thanks Bully. That repeat sprint time is not too bad then.

But if that 20m time is a true reflection he'll need to be very good in tight to compensate because as a leadup player at his size he might struggle at AFL level.

The biggest shock for me was the agility (8.95) 4%, but he doesn't play that way, I can only assume something happened during the testing. Dan Connors ran a 3.40 at the combine because he put the wrong foot forward (story of his life) so one needs to be very careful about treating these things as gospel. Blake Acres was another who was 20% down on his true numbers, obviously a reflection of a player who is in rehabilitation.

 

[Col.E.Kurtz]

Thanks Bully. That repeat sprint time is not too bad then.

But if that 20m time is a true reflection he'll need to be very good in tight to compensate because as a leadup player at his size he might struggle at AFL level.

Indeed, I don’t want to get hung up on this, I’m sure he’s a great prospect. But you’d want to be good at contested marking if you are playing forward and can’t get separation and don’t have a massive tank.

 

[tigergollywog]

Indeed, I don’t want to get hung up on this, I’m sure he’s a great prospect. But you’d want to be good at contested marking if you are playing forward and can’t get separation and don’t have a massive tank.

dunno if I rate the 20m time as a forward pointer. I reckon at 42 and 90kg, I could beat patrick dangerfeild over 20m if I gave him a backward shove and bolted towards the ball carrier. Weeeeeellllllllllll, maybe not. But you get my point?

Lennon does look like a nat fyfe-esque over head mark.

 

[turk-d-tiger]

If there is any team that will be well informed about Lennon's pace and stamina - It would be Richmond Football Club after having a good look at him for the week

 

[Smoking Aces]

I think we place too much emphasis on combine results.

 

[bullus_hit]

If there is any team that will be well informed about Lennon's pace and stamina - It would be Richmond Football Club after having a good look at him for the week

Correct Turk, we have a massive advantage here and the poor results might just be the slice of luck we needed to land our man. By my reckoning, Frank sees Salem & Lennon as the two clear standouts, both would be ranked well inside the top 10. The only reason we are getting a sniff at this late stage is due to Lennon's poor testing, quite possibly a red herring. When Lennon fronted up against Collingwood reserves there was absolutely no hint that he was athletically limited, he's also a member of the AIS, not a place for slouches. I think we are getting a bargain at pick 12, one of those classic sliders that people will look back on and wonder how such a lovely kick and mark could drift down the order.

 

[davidrodan]

I only looked at his highlights because he tested so well at the combine (hate using that name also)
and if we want a replacement for White then Darcy Byrne-Jones looks it
Was quite impressed with his highlights, very neat kick, with a nice burst of speed, great skills on the ground and has a tank
(Granted this was highlights)

Is he a chance to make it to pick 50, or is he more likely to get picked closer to pick 12 than 50?

In my amateur opinion, I would take him over Hartung and prolly Freeman, close call with Taylor