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Pick 12 discussion.
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DirtyDogTiger said:
Agree DDT - plus they will be joining a stronger club than previous draftees, less pressure to carry the side unlike draftees to bottom clubs.
http://www.sen.com.au/inside-football-display-article-2013/Inside-Football-Mock-Draft--Nov-12th/62506
Inside Football Mock Draft – Nov. 12th
Brett Anderson
12.19PM 12-11-2013
UPDATED: Tuesday 12th November
The draft is an ever changing beast and our draft expert Brett Anderson has been working the phones to recruiters, player managers and insiders to try to predict what may occur on draft night on November 21.
1. GWS Giants
Tom Boyd | Eastern Ranges | 199cm | 102kg.
Described as a once in a generation player, Boyd will quickly make the Giants forget about missing out on Lance Franklin to their crosstown rivals. He is a great compliment to Jeremy Cameron and boasts the versatility to player further afield – in the ruck, and also down back, at a pinch.
2. GWS Giants
Josh Kelly | Sandringham Dragons | 183cm | 75kg.
Kelly could well have gone in last year’s mini-draft, such is the regard he is held in amongst club recruiters and he will add some class on the outside for the Giants. His running capabilities will rival that of Tom Scully.
3. St Kilda
Jack Billings | Oakleigh Chargers | 184cm | 78kg.
Of all the midfielders in this draft, Billings is clearly the one that can be labeled as a potential match winner. He did have his injury problems this year, which hampered a mooted move into the midfield, but he will shift from half forward into the onball rotation as his tank improves.
4. Western Bulldogs
James Aish | Norwood | 184cm | 75kg.
Touted as a top-three lock pre-season, Aish could well fall to Gold Coast at pick 5, or even further, but talk is that the Dogs – who have drafted a host of inside ‘grunters’ in previous years, will find it hard pressed to pass up a classy outside ball user of his impeccable bloodlines.
5. Gold Coast Suns
Kade Kolodjashnij | Launceston | 190cm | 81kg.
Quiet and unassuming, the man known as ‘KK’ has shot up draft boards over recent months and could even be taken by the Saints at pick 3. If he becomes a Sun, look for them to also take twin brother Jake at pick 20 should he still be on the board as pre draft interviews suggested the twins work better when in tandem.
6. Collingwood
Christian Salem | Sandringham Dragons | 183cm | 81kg.
The Pies traded up to this pick to ensure they got their man. During trade week there was a strong whisper that Sydney were trying to trade ahead of Collingwood (at pick 10) to get their hands on the Dragons ball-winner. The Pies have two clear targets and Salem is more likely to be taken before pick 10, so they pull the trigger and add some class and size to their midfield.
7. Brisbane Lions
Cameron McCarthy | South Fremantle | 195cm | 89kg.
The first major curve ball of the draft with Brisbane adding to their key forward stocks despite the addition of Jackson Paine and a host of other developing talls on their list. It may be a slight reach, but with so many picks in the 20s, they can bolster their midfield there with the strong possibility than at least two highly ranked ball winners will be available.
8. North Melbourne (F/S)
Luke McDonald | Werribee | 188cm | 85kg.
The son of former Roo and football boss Donald has honed his game in the VFL this year and should be ready to step in at half-back from Round 1, 2014. Pick No. 8 is the right value for a player of his talents, despite North supporters complaining about West Coast bidding then trading their pick (6).
9. Melbourne
Matthew Scharenberg | Glenelg | 190cm | 89kg.
Considered a top five lock mid year, the rangy utility slips to Melbourne due to the rise of Kolodjashnij and the Lions punt on McCarthy. Paul Roos has added a fair amount of size and depth to the Dees midfield brigade via trades and free agency, and can do with boosting the back half. Scharenberg has raised a few ‘go home’ concerns with clubs during interviews (which may be a strong reason for Brisbane to pass), but he is amazing value here for the Dees, as he could also develop into another big-bodied midfieder.
10. Collingwood
Marcus Bontempelli | Northern Knights | 191cm | 83kg.
The Pies take educated the punt that both Brisbane and Melbourne pass on the big-bodied midfielder leaving them with both their main draft targets. His height at the stoppages will be a great asset, as will his long left foot, which has the ability to penetrate opposition defences.
11. West Coast
Dom Sheed | Subiaco | 184cm | 83kg.
West Coast traded back from pick No.6 safe in the knowledge that their main target would still be available. This is as close to a lock as there can be unless they fall in love late with fellow Sandgroper Blake Acres. Sheed will be ready to play from Round 1 and will help regenerate the Eagles midfield.
12. Richmond
Ben Lennon | Northern Knights | 188cm | 77kg.
Richmond is said to be targeting a midfielder and they get another elite kick in Lennon. He is very good overhead and having played mostly forward, adds a point of difference to the Tiger mix, and the club is very familiar with him as he spent time at Punt Road during pre season as part of the AIS AFL Academy.
13. Carlton
Nathan Freeman | Sandringham Dragons | 182cm | 85kg.
Carlton has publically declared they will be looking to add more run from their midfield and Freeman has the perfect mix of power and speed to give the Blues a point of difference in the middle. He can be the Blues version of Daniel Kerr or Luke Shuey alongside an aging Chris Judd.
14. GWS Giants
Tom Cutler | Oakleigh Chargers | 190cm | 85kg.
The Giants are keen to add to their defensive back six and whilst Cutler isn’t key position height and didn’t play much in 2013 due to injuries, his form in 2012 was as good as any. His rebound, competitiveness and run will be vital when GWS start to contend. Some may feel this is a touch high, but many clubs rate him inside the top 20 picks.
15. Sydney Swans
Zac Merrett | Sandringham Dragons | 178cm | 73kg.
Another left field selection and possibly a slight reach but Merrett has a huge upside after playing plenty of cricket as a youngster. With the recent additions of Kurt Tippett and Lance Franklin, the Swans need a smart ground level player to clean up the crumbs, and Merrett’s ball use and nous in the front half are in the upper echelon in this draft class.
16. Geelong
Blake Acres | West Perth | 189cm | 84kg.
The Cats have a few clear needs, but there isn’t a key defender available that is worthy of apick this high. Stephen Wells loves big-bodied midfielders and with the loss of Joel Corey, he gets another Western Australian to eventually take his place. Don’t rule out Zak Jones also as the Cats are big fans.
17. Fremantle
Trent Dumont | Norwood | 186cm | 83kg.
The Dockers are said to want a key position player at some stage, but with McCarthy gone, they add to their inside midfield stocks with Dumont (unless they roll the dice on Cameron Giles). Ross Lyon loves to draft players who can run and cover the ground, and Dumont is more than capable in this regard, plus he is ready to play right away which makes him a perfect for a club in premiership mode.
18. St Kilda
Lewis Taylor | Geelong Falcons | 173cm | 73kg.
If Taylor were 10cm taller, he would have been off the board in the top handful of picks, but despite the height concerns he is still very good value here. He can play in the middle or even across half forward and has more than enough tricks to make up for his size.
19. St Kilda
Matt Crouch | North Ballarat Rebels | 180cm | 78kg.
St Kilda continue to revamp their midfield by adding a clearance machine, and genuine footballer in Crouch. He isn’t as athletic as some of his peers – his running is a weakness, or as fashionable, but he’s a ball-winning animal who’ll serve the Saints well alongside Sebastian Ross and David Armitage on the inside of contests.
20. Gold Coast Suns
Jake Kolodjashnij | Launceston | 192cm | 90kg.
Gold Coast is yet to settle their defensive back six and by adding another tall, it will give them a few more options down the track. If the Suns want to pair up the twins, they will need to pick Jake here instead of waiting until pick No.27 with both Port Adelaide and Adelaide looming behind and both having great interest in the versatile defender.
Inside Football Mock Draft – Nov. 12th
Brett Anderson
12.19PM 12-11-2013
UPDATED: Tuesday 12th November
The draft is an ever changing beast and our draft expert Brett Anderson has been working the phones to recruiters, player managers and insiders to try to predict what may occur on draft night on November 21.
1. GWS Giants
Tom Boyd | Eastern Ranges | 199cm | 102kg.
Described as a once in a generation player, Boyd will quickly make the Giants forget about missing out on Lance Franklin to their crosstown rivals. He is a great compliment to Jeremy Cameron and boasts the versatility to player further afield – in the ruck, and also down back, at a pinch.
2. GWS Giants
Josh Kelly | Sandringham Dragons | 183cm | 75kg.
Kelly could well have gone in last year’s mini-draft, such is the regard he is held in amongst club recruiters and he will add some class on the outside for the Giants. His running capabilities will rival that of Tom Scully.
3. St Kilda
Jack Billings | Oakleigh Chargers | 184cm | 78kg.
Of all the midfielders in this draft, Billings is clearly the one that can be labeled as a potential match winner. He did have his injury problems this year, which hampered a mooted move into the midfield, but he will shift from half forward into the onball rotation as his tank improves.
4. Western Bulldogs
James Aish | Norwood | 184cm | 75kg.
Touted as a top-three lock pre-season, Aish could well fall to Gold Coast at pick 5, or even further, but talk is that the Dogs – who have drafted a host of inside ‘grunters’ in previous years, will find it hard pressed to pass up a classy outside ball user of his impeccable bloodlines.
5. Gold Coast Suns
Kade Kolodjashnij | Launceston | 190cm | 81kg.
Quiet and unassuming, the man known as ‘KK’ has shot up draft boards over recent months and could even be taken by the Saints at pick 3. If he becomes a Sun, look for them to also take twin brother Jake at pick 20 should he still be on the board as pre draft interviews suggested the twins work better when in tandem.
6. Collingwood
Christian Salem | Sandringham Dragons | 183cm | 81kg.
The Pies traded up to this pick to ensure they got their man. During trade week there was a strong whisper that Sydney were trying to trade ahead of Collingwood (at pick 10) to get their hands on the Dragons ball-winner. The Pies have two clear targets and Salem is more likely to be taken before pick 10, so they pull the trigger and add some class and size to their midfield.
7. Brisbane Lions
Cameron McCarthy | South Fremantle | 195cm | 89kg.
The first major curve ball of the draft with Brisbane adding to their key forward stocks despite the addition of Jackson Paine and a host of other developing talls on their list. It may be a slight reach, but with so many picks in the 20s, they can bolster their midfield there with the strong possibility than at least two highly ranked ball winners will be available.
8. North Melbourne (F/S)
Luke McDonald | Werribee | 188cm | 85kg.
The son of former Roo and football boss Donald has honed his game in the VFL this year and should be ready to step in at half-back from Round 1, 2014. Pick No. 8 is the right value for a player of his talents, despite North supporters complaining about West Coast bidding then trading their pick (6).
9. Melbourne
Matthew Scharenberg | Glenelg | 190cm | 89kg.
Considered a top five lock mid year, the rangy utility slips to Melbourne due to the rise of Kolodjashnij and the Lions punt on McCarthy. Paul Roos has added a fair amount of size and depth to the Dees midfield brigade via trades and free agency, and can do with boosting the back half. Scharenberg has raised a few ‘go home’ concerns with clubs during interviews (which may be a strong reason for Brisbane to pass), but he is amazing value here for the Dees, as he could also develop into another big-bodied midfieder.
10. Collingwood
Marcus Bontempelli | Northern Knights | 191cm | 83kg.
The Pies take educated the punt that both Brisbane and Melbourne pass on the big-bodied midfielder leaving them with both their main draft targets. His height at the stoppages will be a great asset, as will his long left foot, which has the ability to penetrate opposition defences.
11. West Coast
Dom Sheed | Subiaco | 184cm | 83kg.
West Coast traded back from pick No.6 safe in the knowledge that their main target would still be available. This is as close to a lock as there can be unless they fall in love late with fellow Sandgroper Blake Acres. Sheed will be ready to play from Round 1 and will help regenerate the Eagles midfield.
12. Richmond
Ben Lennon | Northern Knights | 188cm | 77kg.
Richmond is said to be targeting a midfielder and they get another elite kick in Lennon. He is very good overhead and having played mostly forward, adds a point of difference to the Tiger mix, and the club is very familiar with him as he spent time at Punt Road during pre season as part of the AIS AFL Academy.
13. Carlton
Nathan Freeman | Sandringham Dragons | 182cm | 85kg.
Carlton has publically declared they will be looking to add more run from their midfield and Freeman has the perfect mix of power and speed to give the Blues a point of difference in the middle. He can be the Blues version of Daniel Kerr or Luke Shuey alongside an aging Chris Judd.
14. GWS Giants
Tom Cutler | Oakleigh Chargers | 190cm | 85kg.
The Giants are keen to add to their defensive back six and whilst Cutler isn’t key position height and didn’t play much in 2013 due to injuries, his form in 2012 was as good as any. His rebound, competitiveness and run will be vital when GWS start to contend. Some may feel this is a touch high, but many clubs rate him inside the top 20 picks.
15. Sydney Swans
Zac Merrett | Sandringham Dragons | 178cm | 73kg.
Another left field selection and possibly a slight reach but Merrett has a huge upside after playing plenty of cricket as a youngster. With the recent additions of Kurt Tippett and Lance Franklin, the Swans need a smart ground level player to clean up the crumbs, and Merrett’s ball use and nous in the front half are in the upper echelon in this draft class.
16. Geelong
Blake Acres | West Perth | 189cm | 84kg.
The Cats have a few clear needs, but there isn’t a key defender available that is worthy of apick this high. Stephen Wells loves big-bodied midfielders and with the loss of Joel Corey, he gets another Western Australian to eventually take his place. Don’t rule out Zak Jones also as the Cats are big fans.
17. Fremantle
Trent Dumont | Norwood | 186cm | 83kg.
The Dockers are said to want a key position player at some stage, but with McCarthy gone, they add to their inside midfield stocks with Dumont (unless they roll the dice on Cameron Giles). Ross Lyon loves to draft players who can run and cover the ground, and Dumont is more than capable in this regard, plus he is ready to play right away which makes him a perfect for a club in premiership mode.
18. St Kilda
Lewis Taylor | Geelong Falcons | 173cm | 73kg.
If Taylor were 10cm taller, he would have been off the board in the top handful of picks, but despite the height concerns he is still very good value here. He can play in the middle or even across half forward and has more than enough tricks to make up for his size.
19. St Kilda
Matt Crouch | North Ballarat Rebels | 180cm | 78kg.
St Kilda continue to revamp their midfield by adding a clearance machine, and genuine footballer in Crouch. He isn’t as athletic as some of his peers – his running is a weakness, or as fashionable, but he’s a ball-winning animal who’ll serve the Saints well alongside Sebastian Ross and David Armitage on the inside of contests.
20. Gold Coast Suns
Jake Kolodjashnij | Launceston | 192cm | 90kg.
Gold Coast is yet to settle their defensive back six and by adding another tall, it will give them a few more options down the track. If the Suns want to pair up the twins, they will need to pick Jake here instead of waiting until pick No.27 with both Port Adelaide and Adelaide looming behind and both having great interest in the versatile defender.
If Melbourne end up with Scharenberg their Tyson trade has well and truly been vindicated - and they'd be mad not to grab him if given the chance.
Brissie look like doing us a huge favour, Lennon is worthy of a top ten pick. Tigers win, make it happen Crazy Leppa!
Brissie look like doing us a huge favour, Lennon is worthy of a top ten pick. Tigers win, make it happen Crazy Leppa!
Gotta say, I have fallen right off Louie Taylor. Reckon he goes outside 20. Would take Billy Hartung ahead of him.
And I am warming to Lennon, reckon he has a bit of freak about him. Can kick three in ten minutes, take the big grab or just bob up at the right time.
And I am warming to Lennon, reckon he has a bit of freak about him. Can kick three in ten minutes, take the big grab or just bob up at the right time.
SCOOP said:
I still rate Taylor top ten but Lennon is also top ten material. You can never have too many elite marking and kicking forwards, it will probably be a sad day for Brett O'Hanlon but his lack of versatility was always going to be an impediment. And don't rule out some stints in the backline either, Lennon is the best zone busting kick in the draft, Shannon Hurn like with his depth. Lennon is a great start, now it's time for FJ to step up to the plate with our remaining picks.
Agree. Brisbane choosing McCarthy would make Lennons path to us that much easier.bullus_hit said:
Lennon is the exact type we need. I see him as a potential Pavlich MK2.SCOOP said:
Smoking Aces said:
Not sure he has the leap to be a Pav but you never know, the other player I was thinking about was Michael O'Loughlin, perhaps the best HFF of the era. They're certainly some lofty heights to reach but he has the skills, let's just hope the athleticism comes to the fore.
tigersnake said:
Depends where some of these guys end up, if say Bontempelli lands at Melbourne it may wind up being a Cale Morton exercise in futility. But Roos isn't a mug either, he's sure to grab Scharenberg if available. Bontempelli at Collingwood will be interesting, I think that's his best shot at becoming the player many hope he'll become. Hartung will require some TLC as well, there's no way I'd be throwing him to the wolves in 2014. Merrett, if he goes early will need to work on his inside game, and Cutler & McCarthey are two I didn't see coming. Freeman is another with a fair degree of risk, but if he's fortunate enough to get 2 years of tutelage from Judd, he'll be well on his way. But typically, it's the potential busts who represent some of the biggest upside, it just becomes a question of development.
bullus_hit said:
I agree on Cameron McCarthy. He is a pretty high risk proposition for mine. The Lions will be prepared to take that risk because they do have plenty of picks to sure up other areas of need.
Streak said:
The thing I fear most with Brisbane is they still have the same recruitment team, McCarthey may be the best KP player but their team could do with some immediate bolstering. I doubt McCarthey will make an impact for 3-4 years, something tells me Brissie have jumped the gun here because next year's draft should have far greater KP depth. It's always got to be best available with top ten picks, to do otherwise is a recipe for disaster, the Doggies are a case in point as every year they have appeared to reach for that elusive forward. But all things said and done, if Richmond land a top ten talent due to Brisbane's oversight, then I'm a happy man (sorry Leppa ;D).
It will be interesting if Chocco gets the Saints job as to whom they will choose with their first pick. I know that Billings is the popular pick, but I recall Chocco saying that Scharenberg is the best junior player he has seen for many years so if that's the case then I can't see Chocco passing on him which might change the order quite a bit.
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