Pick 12 discussion.

[Stylo]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

Never say never but I doubt he'd get past Collingwood.

A few things have to fall our way
a) McCarthy/Lennon to Bris
b) Pies take Salem at 6 and Bontempelli lasts to 10 (apparently they rate him very very highly)
c) Melbourne go for Freeman/Taylor over Scharenberg, certainly plausible given the state of their midfield
d) WCE stick with Sheed

All very plausible...

 

[Tigertool]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

A few things have to fall our way
a) McCarthy/Lennon to Bris
b) Pies take Salem at 6 and Bontempelli lasts to 10 (apparently they rate him very very highly)
c) Melbourne go for Freeman/Taylor over Scharenberg, certainly plausible given the state of their midfield
d) WCE stick with Sheed

All very plausible...

What i've bolded aren't what I'd call plausible, but we'll see I guess.

 

[Stylo]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

What i've bolded aren't what I'd call plausible, but we'll see I guess.

Lions are apparently big fans of McCarthy and are in need of a key forward with an already strong midfield

It's definitely possible Pies take Salem at 6 as they're very keen, but so are Melbourne who would pounce at 9. Bontempelli is probably more likely to make it to 10 than Salem

I'll concede that Taylor isn't likely to go at 9, Freeman is though

And it's pretty unlikely that all those things happen. I'd say there's maybe a 10% chance of Berger sliding, which is good enough to keep the dream alive

If he does, it'll be as big a steal as Grundy was

 

[Smoking Aces]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

Our pick will be largely determined on who Brisbane choose at 7. If they overlook Lennon and go for Macarthy then I think Lennon will fall to us at pick 12.

Make no mistake Richmond were very impressed with Lennon when he spent a week with us earlier in the year. If he is there then FJ will not hesitate to call his name out.

We can rule out Salem as I don't think he will make it past pick 9.

 

[Stylo]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

Personally don't want Lennon, I've seen nothing from him that screams top draft pick. Much rather Acres or Dunstan who can both play forward as well

 

[Colonel]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

Our pick will be largely determined on who Brisbane choose at 7. If they overlook Lennon and go for Macarthy then I think Lennon will fall to us at pick 12.

Make no mistake Richmond were very impressed with Lennon when he spent a week with us earlier in the year. If he is there then FJ will not hesitate to call his name out.

We can rule out Salem as I don't think he will make it past pick 9.

I predict we will take Lennon as well. I don't believe Salem or Scharenberg will be there.

I would be interested to hear the thoughts from Tigs10 and Bullus on who they predict we will take?

 

[MB78]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

I predict we will take Lennon as well. I don't believe Salem or Scharenberg will be there.

I would be interested to hear the thoughts from Tigs10 and Bullus on who they predict we will take?

I purchased inside footy draft special and they have us taking Lennon.

 

[Smoking Aces]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

Personally don't want Lennon, I've seen nothing from him that screams top draft pick. Much rather Acres or Dunstan who can both play forward as well

What makes you say that?

 

[bullus_hit]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

I predict we will take Lennon as well. I don't believe Salem or Scharenberg will be there.

I would be interested to hear the thoughts from Tigs10 and Bullus on who they predict we will take?

We rate Lennon, no doubt about that. When he trained with the club most were gushing in their praise with regards to his professionalism and attitude, so he'd be odds on to land at Richmond if available.

 

[Stylo]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

What makes you say that?

Just doesn't excite me. His combine results worry me. Such poor athleticism for a forward flanker isn't ideal and I think his ball skills are overrated. If he ends up here I'll come to terms with it but he's certainly not my first preference.

I'm warming to the idea of Zak Jones at 12... Might be considered a reach but so were Conca, Ellis and Vlastuin to an extent. He's a real competitor, has good skills and a hard edge. Very FJ type. Wouldn't be disappointed with him at all

 

[Rfc4Ever]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

Just doesn't excite me. His combine results worry me. Such poor athleticism for a forward flanker isn't ideal and I think his ball skills are overrated. If he ends up here I'll come to terms with it but he's certainly not my first preference.

I'm warming to the idea of Zak Jones at 12... Might be considered a reach but so were Conca, Ellis and Vlastuin to an extent. He's a real competitor, has good skills and a hard edge. Very FJ type. Wouldn't be disappointed with him at all

Jones sounds like a ripper of a kid but like you said, probably a stretch at pick 12.

Word is there has been plenty of interest in Apeness and it is looking like he might go top 20.

 

[bullus_hit]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

Just doesn't excite me. His combine results worry me. Such poor athleticism for a forward flanker isn't ideal and I think his ball skills are overrated. If he ends up here I'll come to terms with it but he's certainly not my first preference.

I'm warming to the idea of Zak Jones at 12... Might be considered a reach but so were Conca, Ellis and Vlastuin to an extent. He's a real competitor, has good skills and a hard edge. Very FJ type. Wouldn't be disappointed with him at all

You're selling Lennon well short, he's the best kick in the draft pool and he's an A-grade mark. I personally have Salem & Taylor ahead of him but I would not be upset if we landed a player of Lennon's ability. He may not be a walk-up start in the midfield but as a HFF, he's every bit the footballer that we crave. It's a bit like saying Ryan O'Keefe is a dud because he isn't particularly quick or agile. More often than not footballing IQ will trump raw athleticism.

I'm warming to the idea of Zak Jones at 12... Might be considered a reach but so were Conca, Ellis and Vlastuin to an extent. He's a real competitor, has good skills and a hard edge. Very FJ type. Wouldn't be disappointed with him at all

Pick 12 is way over the odds for Jones, if we want a HBF we should be targeting one later in the draft. It's also a position that we don't have a pressing need.

 

[Rfc4Ever]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

I voted for Lennon in the poll due to a needs basis more than anything.

The fact he has an excellent skill set and plays HFF is the deal breaker for me if he is available at 12 to fit a real need for us.

I believe he has a very good upside also and when he maximises his fitness levels, could be one of the better players in the draft.

Big decisions to be made at the draft table for this pick and will be interesting more so than in recent years I reckon who we will end up with at 12.

 

[Stylo]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

You're selling Lennon well short, he's the best kick in the draft pool and he's an A-grade mark. I personally have Salem & Taylor ahead of him but I would not be upset if we landed a player of Lennon's ability. He may not be a walk-up start in the midfield but as a HFF, he's every bit the footballer that we crave.

I keep hearing people harp on about his kicking but haven't seen the evidence for myself tbh. He's a good kick but I wouldn't say he's elite or anything. You're right about his footy smarts and marking which is a plus.

Must admit I'm probably a bit turned off by him carrying on like a porkchop everytime he kicks a goal. Got a bit of the Pettifers about him.

I'll keep watching him over this next few weeks, hopefully he grows on me a bit

 

[bullus_hit]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

I keep hearing people harp on about his kicking but haven't seen the evidence for myself tbh. He's a good kick but I wouldn't say he's elite or anything. You're right about his footy smarts and marking which is a plus.

Must admit I'm probably a bit turned off by him carrying on like a porkchop everytime he kicks a goal. Got a bit of the Pettifers about him.

I'll keep watching him over this next few weeks, hopefully he grows on me a bit

Go back and check out the WA game for confirmation of his kicking ability, there's a good reason he gained AA honours and that game tells the story.

 

[Stylo]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

Go back and check out the WA game for confirmation of his kicking ability, there's a good reason he gained AA honours and that game tells the story.

I'll do that when I get a chance. Probably have been a bit harsh on him.

Hypothetically though if Acres' shoulders are given the all clear would you prefer him or Lennon? They're similar types, could see both starting out on a flank, eventually pinch hitting through the midfield

Acres has more upside IMO. Has pretty much everything Lennon does playing wise but added agility and great endurance. Not sure if he has off the scale footy smarts near goals but he always makes the right decision around the ground. He's also shown a bit of ability on the inside which Lennon hasn't. I guess it depends if we want the Steve Johnson type or the Mundy/Fyfe type. Both would be nice... Comes down to the shoulders I spose

 

[bullus_hit]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

Hypothetically though if Acres' shoulders are given the all clear would you prefer him or Lennon? They're similar types, could see both starting out on a flank, eventually pinch hitting through the midfield

I haven't seen enough of Acres fully fit so I'd be taking the word of others, but one thing I do know is he is an elite athlete with very few weaknesses. He's probably a more likely candidate for midfield duties than Lennon, although interestingly, they both have very similar stats at TAC & Colts level. It would certainly be a tough decision, although I think the club are already very keen on Lennon given they have seen him first hand at training. One thing is for sure, when Frank is set on a player, you would have to shake heaven and earth to get him to change his mind.

 

[Stylo]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

I haven't seen enough of Acres fully fit so I'd be taking the word of others, but one thing I do know is he is an elite athlete with very few weaknesses. He's probably a more likely candidate for midfield duties than Lennon, although interestingly, they both have very similar stats at TAC & Colts level. It would certainly be a tough decision, although I think the club are already very keen on Lennon given they have seen him first hand at training. One thing is for sure, when Frank is set on a player, you would have to shake heaven and earth to get him to change his mind.

Amen :hihi

 

[tigergollywog]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

would it be crazy to expect Lennon to be Jack Darling quality/type? Are we too hung up on engines and midfield potential? Is our list at a stage, and do we have the midfield depth in place, to develop a HFF bloke to kick 50 goals a year? I wouldnt mind.

 

[Scoop]

Re: Looks like Pick 10

would it be crazy to expect Lennon to be Jack Darling quality/type?

Would be madness. Lennon is more Bob Murphy/Ryan O'Keffe/Steve J half forward. If he ends up 75% as good as any of those three and we have a winner.