Palestine and Israel

[DavidSSS]

We know what the ruling Likud Party in Israel want, they put it in their founding document decades ago:

The Likud party’s founding document clearly states: ‘The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.’

They want the lot, they do not believe the Palestinians should have any rights.

Good Four Corners tonight, at least some on the Israeli side were honest enough to say they would do the same if the roles were reversed.

What should the Palestinians do? They have got no support for decades and little prospect of attaining their freedom.

DS

 

[K3]

Willo, this is disgusting

Are you seriously suggesting these people were not killed, that somehow UNRWA or someone else are making the numbers up?

Is that where the defence of what Israel is doing in Gaza has now got to ? Trying to somehow discredit stats about people dying and being injured?

And then add Douglas Murray to any argument.

It's like... Hey, lets go find anyone who has read some books and supports Israel, to be on our side. Just cringeworthy!

If you are not all in on the bible, what is going on is even more reprehensible, if that is possible...

 

[Willo]

Willo, this is disgusting

Are you seriously suggesting these people were not killed, that somehow UNRWA or someone else are making the numbers up?

Is that where the defence of what Israel is doing in Gaza has now got to ? Trying to somehow discredit stats about people dying and being injured?

No, I’m not suggesting anything.
He was trying to differentiate between innocent civilians and hamas fighters killed.
I thought if anyone watched it it was self explanatory. Nothing disgusting about it if you just wants facts rather than illusion

 

[Willo]

And then add Douglas Murray to any argument.

It's like... Hey, lets go find anyone who has read some books and supports Israel, to be on our side. Just cringeworthy!

If you are not all in on the bible, what is going on is even more reprehensible, if that is possible...

“ and then adds Douglas Murray to any argument”
Triggered much? Then doesn’t even bother to see what it was in reference to.
But no doubt it will gets some likes from the usual faction

 

[Sintiger]

No, I’m not suggesting anything.
He was trying to differentiate between innocent civilians and hamas fighters killed.
I thought if anyone watched it it was self explanatory. Nothing disgusting about it if you just wants facts rather than illusion

It’s disgusting because it is irrelevant.

Thousands and thousands of innocent people have been killed and many more have been badly injured. 60% of Gaza’s buildings have been destroyed.

it’s a deflection from the horror of what Israel has done and continues to do.

I prefer to listen to experienced aid and humanitarian workers who say this is the worst they have seen.

 

[Willo]

It’s disgusting because it is irrelevant.

Thousands and thousands of innocent people have been killed and many more have been badly injured. 60% of Gaza’s buildings have been destroyed.

it’s a deflection from the horror of what Israel has done and continues to do.

I prefer to listen to experienced aid and humanitarian workers who say this is the worst they have seen.

It’s not disgusting when you ask a question to get information. It’s only irrelevant to those that thinks so. Others believe it is quite relevant.
Nobody has deflected or downplayed the casualties
You can listen to whoever you like.Nobody has said anything that prevents you doing that

 

[K3]

The opinion of actual Jews in Israel. Unlike many others who are happy to be led, like good little sheeple, they aren't all blinded to the horrors being committed by their government and people.

 

[DavidSSS]

This gives you an idea of what it is like living as a Palestinian in Gaza at the moment:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/n...gaza-population-visual-guide-deaths-displaced

DS

 

[Sintiger]

It’s not disgusting when you ask a question to get information. It’s only irrelevant to those that thinks so. Others believe it is quite relevant.
Nobody has deflected or downplayed the casualties
You can listen to whoever you like.Nobody has said anything that prevents you doing that

Whatever Willo

It’s all part of a propoganda campaign to whitewash ethnic cleansing and genocide.

 

[Willo]

Whatever Willo

It’s all part of a propoganda campaign to whitewash ethnic cleansing and genocide.

What rubbish

 

[AngryAnt]

Ah, the old "I'm just asking questions" routine - the best way to cast doubt or seed misinformation while pretending to be objective. Classic propaganda technique.

Fortunately most of us recognise this for what it is now.

 

[Willo]

Ah, the old "I'm just asking questions" routine - the best way to cast doubt or seed misinformation while pretending to be objective. Classic propaganda technique.

Fortunately most of us recognise this for what it is now.

Well good for you, you’re such a clever boy
You've never asked a question eh? What a wank.

 

[IanG]

Ah, the old "I'm just asking questions" routine - the best way to cast doubt or seed misinformation while pretending to be objective. Classic propaganda technique.

Fortunately most of us recognise this for what it is now.

Funny how the questions are all oriented in 1 direction.

 

[Willo]

Funny how the questions are all oriented in 1 direction.

Yeah it is. Otherwise It’ a propaganda technique and you couldn’t have that. Obviously if you’re pro Palestinian you never ask questions.
You just accept what you’re told. Which is quite obvious going by some on here.

 

[Willo]

This gives you an idea of what it is like living as a Palestinian in Gaza at the moment:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/n...gaza-population-visual-guide-deaths-displaced

DS

Hamas have a lot to answer for. There’s a lot of their own people’s blood on their hands

 

[Willo]

 

[Willo]

The tinderbox. Iran will be licking its lips. It’s proxies do their bidding and more innocents will bear the brunt of their hatred

 

[Willo]

What a piece of work these pricks are

 

[Sintiger]

What rubbish

It’s not rubbish Willo.

The world is starting to wake up to it. I just hope it is not too late

 

[Willo]

It’s not rubbish Willo.

The world is starting to wake up to it. I just hope it is not too late

If they wanted to commit genocide or ethnic cleansing they sure chose a slow and inefficient way way to do it.
Why didn’t they just carpet bomb Gaza from north to south?
Why did they send any personnel into Gaza?
They could have flattened the whole strip in a week.
Why did they bother to drop leaflet’s telling gazans where they were headed next?
Why does Israel let 2.1 million Palestinians live in Israel as Israeli citizens?
Why are there Palestinians elected to the Likud?

There are only one people in danger of being exterminated out of existence. Genocide and ethnic cleansing are only the stated and written objectives of one side. That is Israel’s enemies.
THAT IS FACT.

So according to you and those words of pronunciation, once they “ finish off” the other 2.5million Gazans, they will head to the West Bank, get rid of the other 3 millions+ Palestinians here. Do they then go to Jordan as well? Another 3 million there to get rid of.

Where‘s the next big population of Palestinians? What a furphy.
There is one group to blame for all the innocent death in Gaza. That is hamas. But the Palestinian lovers can’t bear to face the truth.
That Hamas doesn’t give a toss about its own people as long as they can hurt Israel.
Their actions have shown any person will an ounce of sense that fact.

Hamas. Free the hostages and surrender. Then Gazans suffering is at an end. Will they? No, true to form they don’t give a toss for anyone but themselves. So the suffering continues as a result of their actions once again