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Sintiger said:
I will tell you one thing for sure. You don’t help a population of oppressed people who are existing in a living hell by taking away the only aid organisation who can help at the moment.
It’s impossible to talk about the long term until Israel stops destroying Gaza.
Everything else is premature. We are talking survival.
However, Israel taking the whole of Palestine ie West Bank, Gaza and east Jerusalem, would be one of the great injustices in history
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Hope you're prepared for it happening mate...
 
Willo said:
He wasn’t making a statement. He didn't mention anything about Palestinians.
He was trying to make a joke of Israel returning after thousands of years. I bet Palestinians didn’t see the funny side of that.
*smile* poor effort.
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You see and hear what you choose to see and hear. It is what it is.

I'll go back to not engaging with you again from now.
 
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Willo said:
But the point is, it can’t just keep going on forever. It may assist 3rd and 4th generation refugees, but that’s not a future for them. Or the next generation.People keep referring to Gaza as the world’s largest open prison (or words to that effect). With $billions already received in aid there and in other countries. What will the future be like there? In 5 years, 10 years? Do countries just keep donating aid to UNRWA for forever and a day? They may do fine work, (debatable to some) I’m not criticising the aid workers, who I’ve said do a thankless job, even at the risk of their lives.
But like a lot of organisations does the aid really get where it’s supposed to? How much has been spent on infrastructure?(not terror tunnels) how much has gone into creating jobs? Raising the standard of living? Has it improved or worsened or stayed the same? If it hasn’t improved, therein lies a big problem for the next generations.

But surely something has got to give. What happens when the population keeps growing and growing. Where to then? I’m sure someone will say that with Israel’s genocide, the population won’t grow over time. But I beg to differ. The current population of Gaza has doubled in the last 18 years or thereabouts.
The West Bank? I’m not sure, I’ll have to do some research on population growth there. What industries exist there? Job opportunities?
I don’t know, maybe someone else has some information


Assimilate? Post #1727. I’m only trying to sound out possibilities.

People can criticise, it’s easy to do. Some posters can just sit back and take potshots without having the balls to suggest something themselves. I doubt Israel will be giving any land back. Probably the opposite.
What are other people’s thoughts of coming up with solutions where the refugees will go. Some are in Gaza, the WB, Jordan, Lebanon. Others have migrated to western countries.

I’ve asked this before. Nothing has worked so far.
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It can't keep going forever, true.

But that is precisely Israel's strategy, they deliberately kick the can down the road and make sure there is no possibility for a Palestinian state. Why? So they can kick all the Palestinians out of the little that is left of their land.

The point is that it is Israel who are trying to make this go on for as long as possible because the longer it goes on the more time they have to eat away a little at a time until their is nothing left of Palestinian territories. This has been Netanyahu's strategy for many years.

Something has to give, the something that did give was Hamas cracked the sh!!ts and went on a rampage.

The most sensible suggestion I have seen is a 2 state confederation with a view to a 1 state solution after a decade or two of 2 states. I can't see any other way forward. If the Palestinian state has to be run by an international group for some years then so be it. But a Palestinian bantustan, ie: a state which has no control over its own security, is not a solution, it is just a continuation of the occupation. 2 separate states at each others' throats cannot work, 1 state is not possible in the short to medium term.

But it cannot go on forever and the only solution must include self determination for Palestinians.

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Harry said:
Albanese and his Government should be ashamed. Politics does take precedence over everything including moral decency.

johnmenadue.com

The Australian Parliament besmirches us all by refusing Gaza ceasefire - Pearls and Irritations

What cannot be overstated is that nothing in what Australia says or does, as with US, withdraws support for what Israel is doing.
johnmenadue.com johnmenadue.com
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The ALP of my youth would never have taken this position, nor would the Albanese of his youth.
It is disgraceful and I am ashamed of our government.
 
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Sintiger said:
The ALP of my youth would never have taken this position, nor would the Albanese of his youth.
It is disgraceful and I am ashamed of our government.
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Albo has lost all credibility and has undone the goodwill he was trying with the voice referendum.

It will take a real leader, one with iron balls to stand up to the US war monger psychopaths. Hopefully we find one before the US lead us to a war with China.
 
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Dunno what all the angst and fuss is all about.
Humans are the undisputed masters at beating the *smile* out of one another. Be it physical, financial, racial, religious, psychological, " sporting " it doesn't matter n never changes over the entire history of humanity. We just love *smile* over the other bastard down the street somewhere whenever we can.
 
Harry said:
Albo has lost all credibility and has undone the goodwill he was trying with the voice referendum.

It will take a real leader, one with iron balls to stand up to the US war monger psychopaths. Hopefully we find one before the US lead us to a war with China.
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Comrade Harry & Sin what about this lot ?

www.dailymail.co.uk

Putin makes direct threat to NUKE the West

The Russian president said: 'They, NATO and America, are active in other parts of the world, of course, and they continue to lie there, to deceive. They are preparing to strike our territory.'
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

And this one as well

www.dailymail.co.uk

Iran 'gives Hezbollah green light to escalate attacks'

Iran's order comes after it became aware of Israeli plans to invade the southern Gaza city of Rafah, stoking fears that southern Lebanon 'will be next' as US officials warn of a ground invasion.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
TigerMasochist said:
Dunno what all the angst and fuss is all about.
Humans are the undisputed masters at beating the *smile* out of one another. Be it physical, financial, racial, religious, psychological, " sporting " it doesn't matter n never changes over the entire history of humanity. We just love *smile* over the other bastard down the street somewhere whenever we can.
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Sure. Let’s just let any injustice, act of violence or atrocity slip by because that’s the way we humans are.

What a *smile* way to look at life
 
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TM's been running the same "humans are crap and always will be so no point ever doing anything ever" schtick for decades 😂😂
 
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The rumour going around is that the American who self-immolated (shudders) was privy to intel that the USA had troops active in Palestine.

Wonder how true it is.
 
AngryAnt said:
TM's been running the same "humans are crap and always will be so no point ever doing anything ever" schtick for decades 😂😂
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Those two Daily Mail articles I posted are not gimmicks but fact. As for you I suppose your opinion of Russia's invasion of Ukraine is just schtick.
 
Sintiger said:
Active in Palestine doing what ?
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Doing more than what the yanks keep saying they are doing. Aaron's friend has said they were told, by him, that the US soldiers were in an active role with the IDF, not just the advisory one we are told they are in. As an intel officer, he was in a position to know this, it is just if the friend is being completely honest. I don't see why they wouldn't be, considering the circumstances.
 
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