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Palestine and Israel
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I’ve seen this before. The issue is however that no matter how much evidence there is of the brutality of the state of Israel it makes little difference.
Since October 7 we have had “ yes but October 7…” as if that act of horror somehow wiped out everything Israel has done.
Yep. People seem to prefer to remain ignorant, rather than have to re-evaluate certain aspects of what they have been told is right and wrong etc.
Many, many sheeple in the world.
Ahhh, but it's the factual and realistic way to look at HUMAN life. It's who n what we are, the worlds apex predator. All the hand wringing, bleating, moaning and pretense that we are somehow more superior and " civilized " is nothing more than human pretense and absolving of what we actually are.
You can sing n dance all ya like Antsy but proven irrefutable facts that have been tested for thousands upon thousands of years of human existence are simply reality and can't be denied. Yesterday, today, tomorrow, doesn't matter humans will keep finding more n better ways to *smile* one another over.TM's been running the same "humans are crap and always will be so no point ever doing anything ever" schtick for decades
So if someone you really love was murdered for no reason would you say “oh well, can’t complain, that’s the way humans really are” ???
Thankfully the majority of humans are not that way. We have a conscience, we have the capacity to care about each other and for each other and we have capacity for empathy. It is actually a scientific fact that when a human helps another human chemicals are released into our body that give us a sense of wellbeing. I reckon that’s awesome.
Sadly not all humans use the capacities we have for good. Who knows why but it is true humans have done some terrible things.
But I’ll be buggered if I let that get in the way of enjoying the great things about sharing our humanity with each other.
Sorry to get preachy (no god involved btw)
Hell *smile* no. I'd be after the mongrel bastard with everything I could lay my hands on, and that's the reality of humans. We're always flat out having a whack at one another if we get half a chance n plenty of us have never needed a thousandth of the reason you are suggesting here.
Man you got a shitload of touchy feely happening there. Good luck to ya standing there pretending humans are such a lovely creation n pissing against the winds of human reality, but don't be too surprised to find you get wet a lot of the time.
I knew you were going to say that. What a sad way to live life.
I’m not pretending btw. Perhaps try finding the good in people, you might be surprised.
It’s called WAR
There’s never a “nice” war. There will always be innocent casualties. Always.
Does it make it wrong?
If you asked the Palestinians suffering, of course it is. Most Jews/Israelis would say no, it’s war.
If you asked Jews/Israeli suffering from terror attacks, of course it is. The majority of the Palestinian, arabs and other muslims would be celebrating.
Theres no right or wrong. Innocents suffering surpasses any parochialism
Harbouring terrorists is Israel’s justification. There are still thousands of hamas still alive. So in their eyes the job isn’t finished. If there were a ceasefire and they pulled out. It would happen again and again.
Stolen land or just being Jewish or Israeli, take your pick. That’s Irans justification to arm and finance terror groups against the state of Israel. Those terror groups are really armies, it’s not like it’s a group of a dozen or so. Hamas fighters numbered 8n the tens of thousands. Hezbollah numbers are supposedly near 100, 000. Some say 30,000. So really they are terror/enemy armies.
Israel believes it’s fighting for its survival. Is that justification? If it’s justification only for them, that’s all that matters to them. If those terror armies hide behind the population, it’s a hard task to root them out. Exactly what hamas have planned for and to turn public opinion against Israel.
Does Israel care more for public opinion or their own survival? That’s an easy answer.
Just an aside. Were the allies during WW2 genocidal? Or baby killers?
Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Cologne, Hamburg. Many others where innocent people were killed. Was that justified?
Me, Now, I’d say no. But back then obviously the powers that be believed it was
Willo you keep on falling into the same trap.
Thousands of Hamas ….who is Hamas? They don’t walk around with labels on them “ I am Hamas”. I’ve said it time and time again that the Israelis label people Hamas because they worked for the government …all Hamas are terrorists … so we must kill them all.
It is nonsense and is nothing more than propoganda to take the whole of Palestine for themselves. Israel doesn’t believe they are fighting for their survival, to think they are at risk from a few rocket attacks and the odd terrorist attack from people living in an open air prison under blockade when they have one of the most well equipped militaries in the world is just a fantasy.
Hezbollah … read the history of Lebanon in the 1980s and you will understand why they exist. Israel really only has itself to blame for Hezbollah.
The biggest risk to Israel right now is that the world is seeing who they are. Forget governments and media, there is a massive pro Palestine movement that is only getting bigger.
In any case it is not really a war. What is happening is the occupying power is putting down a rebellion by a group in occupied territory. It isn't a war between states since the Palestinians are stateless. It isn't a civil war because Gaza is occupied territory, not part of Israel (although Israel clearly wants to change that).
Gaza is occupied territory, within Gaza there are groups who militarily resist, and the occupying power is fighting the resistance and also punishing the whole population.
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Gaza is occupied territory, within Gaza there are groups who militarily resist, and the occupying power is fighting the resistance and also punishing the whole population.
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The fact that Israel gets away with portraying itself as the victim is just amazing
Congratulations to George Galloway being elected to the UK parliament. One of the very few good guys.
www.google.com
Watch how he dismantles the scumbag sky news reporter.
Veteran British left-wing disruptor George Galloway wins a special election
A veteran British political disruptor has won a special election in a heavily Muslim town in northern England following a contest that has been mired in chaos and controversy and dominated by the war in Gaza
Watch how he dismantles the scumbag sky news reporter.
I was referring to how Israel sees itself and the current conflict..
You and others may not see Israel as being at war and fighting for their survival. But they do.
It’s not a vote of whether it is or it’s not. If Israel sees it that way, it’s how they will respond. It’s not fantasy. They lose one war, they’re finished. Just one war.
If any of those terror armies get a sniff, they’re invading. Otherwise why would Israel “one of the most well equipped militaries in the world” . It’s not there for street parades. They know what’s at stake.
Total *smile*.
Talk about rewriting history
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