Nick Vlastuin

[linuscambridge]

Even if we subscribe to the fantasy line, we overlooked Carlisle, Black and Gunston, all of whom have become solid core footballers.

Um, that's what I was agreeing with in Zips post, no argument there.

Just to refresh our memories;
2006 Reiwoldt/Edwards
2007 Cotchin/Rance
2008 Vickery/Post
2009 Martin/Griffiths
2010 Conca/Batchelor
2011 Ellis/Elton

Not a lot there to disprove my theory that we tend to go mid/tall or tall/mid with our first two picks. A couple of exceptions perhaps in the Vickery/Post and arguably Conca/Batchelor drafts, but I stand by my claim that Francis has not yet used his first and second round picks exclusively on mids.

 

[bullus_hit]

Um, that's what I was agreeing with in Zips post, no argument there.

Just to refresh our memories;
2006 Reiwoldt/Edwards
2007 Cotchin/Rance
2008 Vickery/Post
2009 Martin/Griffiths
2010 Conca/Batchelor
2011 Ellis/Elton

Not a lot there to disprove my theory that we tend to go mid/tall or tall/mid with our first two picks. A couple of exceptions perhaps in the Vickery/Post and arguably Conca/Batchelor drafts, but I stand by my claim that Francis has not yet used his first and second round picks exclusively on mids.

I don't think it's that simple, we could have kept Schulz and picked up Bastinac, Fyfe or Duncan. History has shown that to be an error in judgement. It was also a lineball decision between Scott Selwood and Rance. On the night we only just beat the gong in calling out Rance's name, legend has it that Frank was talked out of Selwood only at the last minute. Tapscott is another who may well have been a Tiger if he'd slipped through to pick 19. There's no doubt our tall stocks were perilously low when Wallet left the building, unfortunately we have gone the high risk approach with both Post and Griffiths and have blundered on both counts. If Elton and McBean kick on then things will start to look a rosier, here's hoping anyway.

 

[TigerFlag2017]

I am lost about what is being argued? I presume everyone agrees post and griff were failures. Not the first and won't be the last.

But tell you, flossy is a beauty

 

[rinso17]

I don't think it's that simple, we could have kept Schulz and picked up Bastinac, Fyfe or Duncan. History has shown that to be an error in judgement. It was also a lineball decision between Scott Selwood and Rance. On the night we only just beat the gong in calling out Rance's name, legend has it that Frank was talked out of Selwood only at the last minute. Tapscott is another who may well have been a Tiger if he'd slipped through to pick 19. There's no doubt our tall stocks were perilously low when Wallet left the building, unfortunately we have gone the high risk approach with both Post and Griffiths and have blundered on both counts. If Elton and McBean kick on then things will start to look a rosier, here's hoping anyway.

What a lot of hindsight crap!!!

If I remember rightly, Shultz was as big a whipping boy as there ever was on at Richmond. There was zero resistance on
PRE when he left. Myself included.

Glad he's having fun now though

 

[Tigerfan]

And Bully, I was very much in the Bastinac & Parker corner. Our midfield would be the best in the AFL with those two. Wowee.

Unless you're Brian Taylor, don't wowee. Wven BT should stop it. Six year olds are rolling their eyes!

 

[bullus_hit]

What a lot of hindsight crap!!!

If I remember rightly, Shultz was as big a whipping boy as there ever was on at Richmond. There was zero resistance on
PRE when he left. Myself included.

Glad he's having fun now though

We sold Schulz for a packet of chips and half a cup of coke, no hindsight needed for that assessment. Few had issues with him leaving, most thought we traded him well below market value. Like I mentioned earlier, if we were so low on KP players, why give up one for a chubby back pocket and a stick insect wingman? After all, isn't this argument about list management and maintaining a decent quota of talls on the list?

The biggest mistake we made with Schulz was not grabbing pick 28 when it was on offer, most were scratching their heads about that one, and it only adds salt into the wounds when we see who went at pick 29 & pick 30.

 

[RedanTiger]

We sold Schulz for a packet of chips and half a cup of coke, no hindsight needed for that assessment.

Think we actually paid part of Jay's wage for the first year he left so we really paid them to take him.

 

[Beargrease]

But tell you, flossy is a beauty

Agreed. Went to the the Tiges v Giants game last week and albeit against inferior opposition (although he's actually younger than nearly all the Giants players) Flossy looks a class above.

With apologies to Big Kev, "I'm excited!"

 

[spook]

We sold Schulz for a packet of chips and half a cup of coke, no hindsight needed for that assessment. Few had issues with him leaving, most thought we traded him well below market value. Like I mentioned earlier, if we were so low on KP players, why give up one for a chubby back pocket and a stick insect wingman? After all, isn't this argument about list management and maintaining a decent quota of talls on the list?

The biggest mistake we made with Schulz was not grabbing pick 28 when it was on offer, most were scratching their heads about that one, and it only adds salt into the wounds when we see who went at pick 29 & pick 30.

I believe Port took on Jay's not insignificant salary as well, although I stand to be corrected. I never wanted him traded and agree we got far less than he was worth.

As for pick 28, it would have been traded for McMuffin, allowing us to get Scooter Selwood with pick 19. It's a shame Wallet believed in Schulz and Dimma didn't (or was Schulz the one decision that Dimma said was made before he got there and wished he could have reversed? He did say there was one).

 

[nikolasmia]

blair screwed us with Shultz for sure.

He also screwed us with Thomson.

At least we realised how good he was and poached him

 

[AngryAnt]

blair screwed us with Shultz for sure.

He also screwed us with Thomson.

At least we realised how good he was and poached him

 

[Tigers of Old]

If I remember rightly, Shultz was as big a whipping boy as there ever was on at Richmond. There was zero resistance on
PRE when he left. Myself included.

Not exactly zero.

 

[bullus_hit]

I believe Port took on Jay's not insignificant salary as well, although I stand to be corrected. I never wanted him traded and agree we got far less than he was worth.

As for pick 28, it would have been traded for McMuffin, allowing us to get Scooter Selwood with pick 19. It's a shame Wallet believed in Schulz and Dimma didn't (or was Schulz the one decision that Dimma said was made before he got there and wished he could have reversed? He did say there was one).

I think our original offer for Schulz was the year after, but it's no less painful considering Dayne Beams went at 29 and Daniel Hannebury at 30. There's no guarantees we would have landed either of those two but there were plenty of others who would have been better than Farmer & Nason.

 

[spook]

I think our original offer for Schulz was the year after, but it's no less painful considering Dayne Beams went at 29 and Daniel Hannebury at 30. There's no guarantees we would have landed either of those two but there were plenty of others who would have been better than Farmer & Nason.

No, the original offer of pick 28 for Sarge was in 2009. Beams and Hannebery were drafted in 2008.

 

[bullus_hit]

No, the original offer of pick 28 for Sarge was in 2009. Beams and Hannebery were drafted in 2008.

2009 was the year Nason and Farmer were recruited, it was the year before pick 28 was on the table. 2007 was the year Rance and Selwood were up for grabs.

 

[spook]

2009 was the year Nason and Farmer were recruited, it was the year before pick 28 was on the table. 2007 was the year Rance and Selwood were up for grabs.

Yeah, sorry, you're right. :theyareontome

I just knew it wasn't the same year as Beams et al.

 

[Brodders17]

I think our original offer for Schulz was the year after, but it's no less painful considering Dayne Beams went at 29 and Daniel Hannebury at 30. There's no guarantees we would have landed either of those two but there were plenty of others who would have been better than Farmer & Nason.

better than Farmer and Nason? pfft.

 

[wayne]

Just noticed the AFL has 22 under 22.

The under 22 team of the year and you get to vote from 40 players.

In the backline you can choose from super young talent like Seedsman, Golby and Roberton. No Vlastuin, don't worry, he'll be in the mids....

The mids have guns such as Treloar, Redden and Cunnington, he doesn't play forward much, but Vlastuin must have been plonked in there...

Ok, time to vote for Vlastu.... what... not there?? I'll have to pick from stars like Dalhaus and Gunston...

At least Ellis and Martin made it I guess. ???

 

[Tigertool]

That under 22 team is a total *smile* joke.

I was disappointed Vlas isn't an option, but I was red hot seething when I realised McBean wasn't in there.

 

[mld]

That under 22 team is a total *smile*ing joke.

I was disappointed Vlas isn't an option, but I was red hot seething when I realised McBean wasn't in there.

They'll have egg on their face come Brownlow night.