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Nick Vlastuin
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Baron Samedi said:
TBF he's played as a back for most of his career Baron - quite a few on here were advocating a move or at least a trial in midfield for Nick as recently as last year. D'E, Scoop and other astute posters amongst them.
I agree the experiment with Vlastuin as a forward/mid is a bust, he needs to go back and stay back.
He's a solid player at HB but he needs to be elite to survive in a flanker role. I'd still think about shopping him at year's end. Robust half backs are a dime a dozen.
Depends on what the scans show in terms of the severity. Even a mild sprain of the AC joint ligaments will take 6 weeks to fully heal but they often return within 2-3 weeks with it strapped up but this means they are more susceptible to re-injury especially the rugged way Flossy plays. A more severe injury can be a slight fracture of the Acromion which means more than a few weeks rest. If the ligament is torn off the bone it means surgery and 3 months off. Don't forget how long it took Gary Ablett to get over a similar injury when his left shoulder was driven into the turf.tigertim said:
Good call out Antman. I almost choked on my sandwich when I read the post. Lots have called for Vlaustin to be tried as an inside midfielder. He has proven fairly reliably to not be up to that level.antman said:
Interested to hear why you think he needs to be elite to survive ToO. I think he's good enough to hold down one of the back flank roles. What is he lacking to say he can't survive down there? Surely it's up to a level of talent across the team?Tigers of Old said:
The_General said:
I don't see Nick as having enough attacking strings to his bow General to be one of the comp's best half backs. Not blessed with the necessary speed for the modern game. Not a line breaker, not a particularly penetrating kick. Now we have seen he has little value as a mid/forward too. He's limited.
Don't get me wrong he's a solid enough B-C level player. I just think we need to look higher than that. He has some trade currency, though i'm not sure it's a lot.
If he moved on to gain us something of more value I'd be ok with that.
OK - I agree with that summation. It's a trade off though I think, of getting another Houli who can break lines but isn't really going to smash it in the trenches, versus Vlaustin who'll become a cannon ball to get us the pill and feed it out to a more running type. Hence the reason I talked about team balance.
However, I'd certainly consider a trade if we could get an upgrade somewhere else (eg packaged him with a pick for a KPF.......). As Gaddy Lyon said today on SEN (I feel dirty, I listened for 15mins!) you can make a back flanker, you can't make a key forward (or words to that affect).
However, I'd certainly consider a trade if we could get an upgrade somewhere else (eg packaged him with a pick for a KPF.......). As Gaddy Lyon said today on SEN (I feel dirty, I listened for 15mins!) you can make a back flanker, you can't make a key forward (or words to that affect).
But why does he need to '... be elite to survive in a flanker role...'?
If he is part of a successful back 6, I'd be more than happy with this result.
If he is part of a successful back 6, I'd be more than happy with this result.
antman said:
His position should've been settled much, much earlier. The process of trialling him in midfield should've begun after three pre seasons.
As for the forward experiment, why this year when it was obvious he wasn't suited in the preseason?
Took too long and it's stuffing him around.
The_General said:
He hasn't seen much midfield time, dunno where you're gettin' this from.
No argument from me that his tank appears limited. We just haven't seen much of him as a mid at the top level. The call on him appears to have been made in other fora. Which is fine.
antman said:
I agree, but we tend to leave someone in this experimentation period for far too long ie. the Steve Morris up forward phase in 2015-16.
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artball said:
clearly. 1-2 weeks would be a good result I reckon.
no Reecey C or Love Machine for a month or more will be really, really hard to cover.
A september back 6 IMO should go
Short Astbury Grimes
Reecey C Rance Vlastuin.
with Kmac dropping into holes off a wing.
Short, Reecy C, Rance and Vlastuin all provide drive.
Garthwaite could push in there sooner than expected by all accounts.
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arlobill said:
RFC's not overly illuminating on the injury front.
we have zero idea whats going on with Griffens or Prestia, and Vlas is a mystery?
Im not saying sack anyone, or typical richmond with rolly eyes, or anything like that, but i wouldnt mind knowing how theyre going?
