Matt white

[Rosy]

which just goes to show stats taken by themselves are rubbish. my eyes havent constantly lied to me over the last 3 and a half yrs.

i can categorically say i would not allow any player under 6ft on my list who cannot kick.unless they bring other outstanding redeeming attributes to the table. white doesnt. in a nut shell we have to do better.

Have you commented about Cotches and Cousins' turnovers/mistakes? The better players do them too, especially when there is no clear game plan and a lack of support.

Anyway I can categorically say Matty White wouldn't want to be on your list, he'd much prefer to be on Richmond's, so all's good.

 

[Streak]

Anyway I can categorically say Matty White wouldn't want to be on your list, he'd much prefer to be on Richmond's, so all's good.

Gee, I find that hard to believe :hihi

I'm starting to think that the people who like to deride players on these boards like Matt White really hate themselves.

Why are you guys still Richmond supporters when you hate the players so much?

You really do have to wonder. Perhaps this question should be started as a seperate post.

 

[Leysy Days]

You really do have to wonder. Perhaps this question should be started as a seperate post.

Who's said they hate him?

 

[Tigerhart04]

Some people on here have mentioned that the only reason White is getting bagged is because he missed that goal. you may be right but I think he's been pretty ordinary this year, as most have said disposal is not up to it and his decision making at times leaves me shaking my head. I think he should have been dropped atleast 4 or 5 rounds ago. When he missed that crucial goal that was the last straw for me. Should find it extremely hard to get back in the side. I don't care if he's the hardest trainer, it should not give you automatic selection

ML, White polled votes here on PRE for the first 4 or 5 rounds at least, but correct me if I'm wrong. I still think he's sitting in our Top 10 which says probably more about the other 22 players selected than anything else. However IMO his disposal is no worse than than many other footballers but as I've said repeatedly can definitely be improved upon. He's no Deledio we all accept that, but neither are 3/4's of his teammates. And we'll obviously have to agree to disagree regarding his decision making, plenty of his peers have made some bloody ordinary choices this year also.

And finally his possies have been down (still mid teens)in the last few games but it appears to me that he's been given more tagging type roles, so his speed which is his main weapon isn't being utilised as such. IMO he should be our linkman breaking through the centre, but I'm not a coaches bootlace.

Kid's only just turned 22, has plenty of time for more development with the correct structure and personnel at the club. The difference with White is that he wants to improve (hence his hard training), not so sure about some of his team mates.

 

[IanG]

Some people on here have mentioned that the only reason White is getting bagged is because he missed that goal. you may be right

No they aren't right. I've been a supporter of Matty but his overall development appears to have stalled.

 

[Dyer Disciple]

No they aren't right. I've been a supporter of Matty but his overall development appears to have stalled.

Agree, I wrote him off a couple of years ago and was having second thoughts when he ran into a little bit of a purple patch since then, however his limitations are too apparent and his development is next to non-existant.

Definitely on the trade or chop block. We have to stop perservering with these types.

 

[craig]

Definitely on the trade or chop block. We have to stop perservering with these types.

Absolutely Double D, have been yarping on ad nauseum bout this stuff and these player types.

Whats most frustrating is the amount of these guys on the list that are just sadly and simply deficient in key areas.

 

[Hypoxic]

He's a dud. Totally lacks any semblance of class. That sitter he missed is a prime example of this.

I watched Jonathan Brown from the Brisbane Lions miss more than one "sitter" at the Gabba last night.

JB must be a DUD and have the same "lack of semblance of class" as Matty White.

I guess it was pretty difficult for you to recover from being called a dud when you missed your last shot at goal in 1966 Ridley.

Its a long time ago Ridley......grade 6 is just a distant memory for me too...........but don't let your inadequacies and jealousies cloud your own vision when looking at other footballers that have gone on to play at the top level, even after they missed shots at goal as easy as the one you missed in that last game that ended your footy dream at age 12.

 

[thejinx]

I watched Jonathan Brown from the Brisbane Lions miss more than one "sitter" at the Gabba last night.

JB must be a DUD and have the same "lack of semblance of class" as Matty White.

I guess it was pretty difficult for you to recover from being called a dud when you missed your last shot at goal in 1966 Ridley.

Its a long time ago Ridley......grade 6 is just a distant memory for me too...........but don't let your inadequacies and jealousies cloud your own vision when looking at other footballers that have gone on to play at the top level, even after they missed shots at goal as easy as the one you missed in that last game that ended your footy dream at age 12.

What a ridiculous post. Comparing Jonathon Brown to Matthew White now are we?

Jonathon Brown may have dropped an easy mark, but he can win games off his own boot, and more than makes up for that one mistake with plenty of other skills and attributes. Matthew White? About the only thing he can do is run fast. Everything else about his game is average at best.

As for the whole tangent about Ridley playing football.... WTF?

Matthew White isn't the way forward, but I'm sad to say, there are more worrying players on our list at this stage, so whether or not we should say goodbye to him this year is hard to say. He should definitely be gone by 2011 though. Otherwise I will have lost complete faith in our new coach by that stage.

 

[Rosy]

He should definitely be gone by 2011 though. Otherwise I will have lost complete faith in our new coach by that stage.

That depends on how he improves and on how he fits in to the team structure at the time. Next season's delistings aren't a decision to be made now. If other players are better they will push Matty out but at this stage he has been earning his spot. It amazes me how people judge so much on goals yet little credit is ever given to players that do the hard work to get the work for the forwards to finish.

I think the Brown analogy is fair enough. Matty isn't Jonathan Brown (unless he shrunk in the wash), I don't think any of our players have his class and ability at this stage, but all players are capable of missing a shot at goal. The way Matty has had one kick singled out is ridiculous.

 

[Hypoxic]

What a ridiculous post. Comparing Jonathon Brown to Matthew White now are we?

Jonathon Brown may have dropped an easy mark, but he can win games off his own boot, and more than makes up for that one mistake with plenty of other skills and attributes. Matthew White? About the only thing he can do is run fast. Everything else about his game is average at best.

As for the whole tangent about Ridley playing football.... WTF?

Matthew White isn't the way forward, but I'm sad to say, there are more worrying players on our list at this stage, so whether or not we should say goodbye to him this year is hard to say. He should definitely be gone by 2011 though. Otherwise I will have lost complete faith in our new coach by that stage.

You need to read properly Jinx.

This whole thread was started when RIDLEY created a ridiculous post saying that Whitey was a dud because he missed a sitter of a goal, not a mark.

I'm making sure that RIDLEY knows how ridiculous his post was in the first place.

"He should definitely be gone by 2011 though." Be disappointed if he doesn't develop, not because he stays on our list.

As for Whitey staying on the list beyond his current contract - if he keeps developing he will remain on the list. If he doesn't he will go. When he comes back into the Tiger lineup in 2 or 3 weeks, as he deserves to do at this stage, he will be fully fit and he will rip up the park, just like he did early in this season until he became NOT SO FIT with an ankle injury.

The new coaches may give Whitey further opportunity or they may chop him. At least they are qualified to judge him, unlike ALL of us who post on PRE.

The same goes for every other player at Richmond so lets just leave Whitey to do his best, with our support, and see what develops, for the whole group.

Wouldn't it be great to push Matty White into the Tasmanian river that they brew BOAGS from and then pull him out with Jonathan Brown's size?

Hang on, lets push the whole Richmond line-up into that same river.

As for Ridley's footy skills, he was proven to be a dud at primary school. Just like me.

 

[tigergollywog]

As for Ridley's footy skills, he was proven to be a dud at primary school. Just like me.

I was a pretty crap junior footballer too and am doubtful on Whitey. Is a pattern emerging?

 

[thejinx]

Wouldn't it be great to push Matty White into the Tasmanian river that they brew BOAGS from and then pull him out with Jonathan Brown's size?

Hahaha... good call... They should throw the whole squad in there...

To be fair, I hadn't read the thread from start to finish, but personally, I can't see much more development in Matty White. He doesn't give that sense that he has anything else to grow into into.

I'd be extremely surprised if he adds more strings to his bow between now and 2011. I'll eat my own words if he does, but I'm confident enough in my own abilities to see potential, and from what I've seen he doesn't have any.

He's a tryer, no doubt, and he's done a few special things here and there that have made me jump out of my chair, but he's not the kind of long term player this club needs to be successful. We have too many one dimensional players on our list, and he's one of them.

That said, I hope he proves me wrong, but I highly doubt it.

 

[Rosy]

I was a pretty crap junior footballer too and am doubtful on Whitey. Is a pattern emerging?

Nah. My best footy was in primary school and I love having Matty out there.

 

[WesternTiger]

Agree, I wrote him off a couple of years ago and was having second thoughts when he ran into a little bit of a purple patch since then, however his limitations are too apparent and his development is next to non-existant.

Definitely on the trade or chop block. We have to stop perservering with these types.

Way too many in front of White!

 

[Hypoxic]

Its somewhat difficult to find but Matt White won the Round 9 AFL ARMY AWARD nomination for his run down tackle on Brett Stanton. :clap

Maybe those of us that are optimistic about his future are right on the money.

Go Whitey, keep showing us that Tiger spirit running through your viens. ;D

 

[Rosy]

Its somewhat difficult to find but Matt White won the Round 9 AFL ARMY AWARD nomination for his run down tackle on Brett Stanton. :clap

That's awesome. Good onya Matty. I hope every Tiger can reach Matty's level of endevour and determination. Both very important attributes to have in a player.

 

[Hairydolfin]

Is still young and good enough to be included in our plans moving forward

 

[Silent Bob]

I reckon there is still an upside to white. Others desrve the chop before him.

 

[the claw]

That depends on how he improves and on how he fits in to the team structure at the time. Next season's delistings aren't a decision to be made now. If other players are better they will push Matty out but at this stage he has been earning his spot. It amazes me how people judge so much on goals yet little credit is ever given to players that do the hard work to get the work for the forwards to finish.

I think the Brown analogy is fair enough. Matty isn't Jonathan Brown (unless he shrunk in the wash), I don't think any of our players have his class and ability at this stage, but all players are capable of missing a shot at goal. The way Matty has had one kick singled out is ridiculous.

this is where the supporters and the club go wrong. they live in hope that players will improve instead of haveing a clear set of criteria for judging players before they clog our list up for 5 or 7 yrs.

if we applied a simple criteria to our players blokes like white would have been gone already. well maybe thats wrong there have been and are shedloads like him or worse on the list.