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Matt Thomas
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Re: Pick 42 Matt Thomas
He's the barometer of where the coach's vision is at.
Currently self preservation level is at super ninja.
He's the barometer of where the coach's vision is at.
Currently self preservation level is at super ninja.
Re: Pick 42 Matt Thomas
What does he do that Arnot or Helbig can't? They can smack in hard and aren't complete defensive liabilities. If the bad guy with the ball isn't right in front of him (and not moving), he's out of the game.
Dud, delist.
What does he do that Arnot or Helbig can't? They can smack in hard and aren't complete defensive liabilities. If the bad guy with the ball isn't right in front of him (and not moving), he's out of the game.
Dud, delist.
Re: Pick 42 Matt Thomas
I've begun to think it's not self preservation, Bryan.
I've got a thousand things to say about Thomas. I'll cut it down.
Strategically Thomas is a logical sub to give cover to Miles who has to tire. He's not seasoned. We use Miles as #1 inside mid for as long as he can go and then we send in a fresh Thomas to give him some cover. (Cotchin is getting just the chop out we all want here.) We keep stretching young Miles in a development season for him. Thomas is the cavalry. Development. Strategic. All good.
Thomas is an assault weapon. And a useful one. Our plan A is assault. We are a first to the ball team. In controlled waves, counter-pointed by months of ball insecurity. Thomas is used in sledgehammer plays - stands off the contest then runs through it, gathering or taking one of them out. Or he sits under it and then dishes badly by hand.
But he does not chase. (Did he chase today? I missed it.) And this is where it gets interesting. He could chase but he doesn't. Even Chris Judd is slow when he's standing in the middle of the ground with his hands on his hips. Defensive running is not Thomas's job. He is assault not defence.
Yeah, sure he's injured. He can't walk like half his team-mates. But he doesn't get a call to the phone when he's witnessing their break away. Because that's the plan. To stick to the tactical superiority of the coach at the expense of football values.
The coach is not in survival mode. He is in suicide mode.
Not a month ago Paul Roos demonstrated what football values do to tactics. *smile* pace. We won't run. Matt Thomas won't run. Hardwick has coached the fundamentals out of the team.
Hey, he can conceive and coach offensive plays. (Maybe he really is a genius.) But at what cost?
That's how I see it, spook.
Leysy Days said:
I've begun to think it's not self preservation, Bryan.
I've got a thousand things to say about Thomas. I'll cut it down.
Strategically Thomas is a logical sub to give cover to Miles who has to tire. He's not seasoned. We use Miles as #1 inside mid for as long as he can go and then we send in a fresh Thomas to give him some cover. (Cotchin is getting just the chop out we all want here.) We keep stretching young Miles in a development season for him. Thomas is the cavalry. Development. Strategic. All good.
Thomas is an assault weapon. And a useful one. Our plan A is assault. We are a first to the ball team. In controlled waves, counter-pointed by months of ball insecurity. Thomas is used in sledgehammer plays - stands off the contest then runs through it, gathering or taking one of them out. Or he sits under it and then dishes badly by hand.
But he does not chase. (Did he chase today? I missed it.) And this is where it gets interesting. He could chase but he doesn't. Even Chris Judd is slow when he's standing in the middle of the ground with his hands on his hips. Defensive running is not Thomas's job. He is assault not defence.
Yeah, sure he's injured. He can't walk like half his team-mates. But he doesn't get a call to the phone when he's witnessing their break away. Because that's the plan. To stick to the tactical superiority of the coach at the expense of football values.
The coach is not in survival mode. He is in suicide mode.
Not a month ago Paul Roos demonstrated what football values do to tactics. *smile* pace. We won't run. Matt Thomas won't run. Hardwick has coached the fundamentals out of the team.
Hey, he can conceive and coach offensive plays. (Maybe he really is a genius.) But at what cost?
spook said:
That's how I see it, spook.
Re: Pick 42 Matt Thomas
youve been quiet sheepy.
When dimma and blair asked matt " what can you bring to the team?"
he answered "a 5mm thick skull".
hes an honest journeyman not in the same class as martin pyke, but probably with better social skills.
lamb22 said:
youve been quiet sheepy.
When dimma and blair asked matt " what can you bring to the team?"
he answered "a 5mm thick skull".
hes an honest journeyman not in the same class as martin pyke, but probably with better social skills.
Re: Pick 42 Matt Thomas
Watched Thomas closely yesterday and like the week before when he started as the sub he added absolutely nothing of substance....22 disposals with 53 super coach points pretty much sums up his out put average at best with a smattering of clangers, wasted possessions.....
Also he Constantly missed tackles (credited with 4) but he missed so many and he is super slow....
Id much rather Arnot who has been impressive of late and needs to be rewarded....
Watched Thomas closely yesterday and like the week before when he started as the sub he added absolutely nothing of substance....22 disposals with 53 super coach points pretty much sums up his out put average at best with a smattering of clangers, wasted possessions.....
Also he Constantly missed tackles (credited with 4) but he missed so many and he is super slow....
Id much rather Arnot who has been impressive of late and needs to be rewarded....
Re: Pick 42 Matt Thomas
Won't argue over the social skills but Pikey was all over a Normie until he popped a hammie playing for Brisvegas. There was four clubs keen enough on his football skills to ignore his social skills over his journey to four dingly danglies
Geez tgw did you ever actually see Pikey play?tigergollywog said:
Won't argue over the social skills but Pikey was all over a Normie until he popped a hammie playing for Brisvegas. There was four clubs keen enough on his football skills to ignore his social skills over his journey to four dingly danglies
Re: Pick 42 Matt Thomas
Hope he bought Ivvy a drink last night, because he would not have scored that goal without the big mullet pushing the Saints defender behind the line.artball said:
Re: Pick 42 Matt Thomas
Back in the side again.
On raw numbers at 27, Thomas is actually in career best form.
Averaging 21 disposals and and impressive 6 tackles a game. Better than a heck of a lot of others that is for sure. He does have a red hot go.
Yes he lacks a yard of pace and could struggle in WA but with harder bodies Petterd and Jacko missing their is actually some degree of logic to this selection.
I'm far more baffled that we persevere with a fringe veteran like Newie than I am with bringing Thomas into the 22.
Back in the side again.
On raw numbers at 27, Thomas is actually in career best form.
Averaging 21 disposals and and impressive 6 tackles a game. Better than a heck of a lot of others that is for sure. He does have a red hot go.
Yes he lacks a yard of pace and could struggle in WA but with harder bodies Petterd and Jacko missing their is actually some degree of logic to this selection.
I'm far more baffled that we persevere with a fringe veteran like Newie than I am with bringing Thomas into the 22.
Re: Pick 42 Matt Thomas
Slow, cant kick. Stereotypical Richmond footballer. Straight back in.
Rookie list for insurance...blah blah blah
Will take a plum midfield slot and wont be around for when we should be challenging for our next premiership.
Can only shake your head.
Slow, cant kick. Stereotypical Richmond footballer. Straight back in.
Rookie list for insurance...blah blah blah
Will take a plum midfield slot and wont be around for when we should be challenging for our next premiership.
Can only shake your head.
Re: Pick 42 Matt Thomas
It's the only way for a desperado to sell himself. Talk up the club to raise attraction and (somehow) gain respect. We're gullible enough.
St Kevin said:He might play VFL finals next year. Surely that's what he meant... >
It's the only way for a desperado to sell himself. Talk up the club to raise attraction and (somehow) gain respect. We're gullible enough.
Re: Pick 42 Matt Thomas
Wouldn't have thought he had the engine for this size of ground. Still Dimma has spoken
Wouldn't have thought he had the engine for this size of ground. Still Dimma has spoken
Re: Pick 42 Matt Thomas
Yeah, gone back on our word/mantra three times over.
1) Can't kick
2) He wasn't insurance
3) He doesn't get us closer to a flag
The real funny part is that we had Thomas ranked ahead of Miles at the start of the year.
Miles should have been in from Round 1.
Wish Arnott, got half the midfield time this bloke does.
Leysy Days said:
Yeah, gone back on our word/mantra three times over.
1) Can't kick
2) He wasn't insurance
3) He doesn't get us closer to a flag
The real funny part is that we had Thomas ranked ahead of Miles at the start of the year.
Miles should have been in from Round 1.
Wish Arnott, got half the midfield time this bloke does.
Re: Pick 42 Matt Thomas
You've absolutely nailed it Scoop. Yet they keep on picking him. Why?SCOOP said:
