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Marsh 1 v Collingwood

Solid hit out. No injuries thank heavens unlike the Pies.

Liked Baker, Stack & Pickett. Dow also promising with his movements as other noted. Higgo ran his backside off. Lacks match fitness but will be better for it.

A fraction disappointed in 2nd year mids RCD & Ross who were a bit overwhelmed by stronger opposition. Very frustrated by Chol who just doesn’t work hard enough often enough.

I expected us to lose yesterday with that midfield & forward line so not reading much into it.

Next week will give us a better indication when our Premiership stars return. That said practice matches are just that. All about round 1..

Let’s acknowledge that Hardwick did not wish to highlight our enhanced gameplan to Buckley ahead of Round 2, when four points are on the line.

That strategy of denying Buckley an early opportunity to adopt the mimic phase displays 2020 (September) Vision.
 
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What it did show is our forward key position stocks are pretty bare , yes Tom & jack didn't play but you would like to have at least 1 or 2 coming through developing.

CCJ seems to be more of a ruck who can go forward & Balta, well not sure where he plays to be honest.

Dimma mentioned it was the Pies 3rd proper match yet only our 1st, obviously some teams have organised scratch matches leading into it.
 
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On what I
Dunstall just said another club tried to recruit Pickett over the off season but it didn’t happen only due to lack of salary cap space.

Surely that’s not right. Pickett was always tied to us wasn’t he?

In truth there were probably a few clubs who looked at this and possibly even approached us. Pretty sure we had him tied down.

But the real point is I doubt Pickett would leave. I have heard his manager say a number of times that he wants to repay the Tigers for the faith they have shown in him when no other club would, and also that he and his family are very settled with the club and Melbourne life in general.

Sure we have to pay him, but no more Rancey helps solve that issue.
 
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Got home from the game and watched the replay with Caesar, always different second time round.

Thought the Pies played very Richmond Like

Bit disappointed that a few fringes didn’t take there chance

Liked signs from Dow, CCJ, Stack, Ross and Pickett

Yep, not sure why everyone is down on Jack Ross i thought he played quite well.

Also i were saying to the boys before the game what Dimma said after the game, the Pies were a lot more advanced in their prep having 3 games to our one.

Much prefer tough games leading into the season than walkovers like Essendon.

I am working on the premise that because we are playing Collingwood in round 2 we wanted to show them nothing, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED we showed them ABSOLUTELY nothing :)
 
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Degoey was the difference in the last quarter. I can't figure out how he wasn't playing on Friday night instead.

Degoey being eased in after coming back post-Christmas quite unfit. That's my guess as to why he didn't play Friday night.
 
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A fraction disappointed in 2nd year mids RCD & Ross who were a bit overwhelmed by stronger opposition. Very frustrated by Chol who just doesn’t work hard enough often enough.

Agree with RCD and particularly Chol but not sure why Ross is getting such a bad rap from everyone. Had 18 disposals, only 2 others had more, from 69% game time. It looked a bit to me like he was playing more of an outside game. Maybe that's how we plan on using him since we're flush with quality midfielders as it is.
 
The way clubs play in preseason matches usually does correlate with the season ahead.

Collingwood were missing Pendlebury, Sidebottom, and Moore at least. But to the eye, I thought we looked impenetrable at times down back and were dominant for half a game. Baker looked significantly better. Dow looked like an absolute gun from the moment he stepped out there. Every player in our defence looked dominant once again so that alone is an excellent takeaway for yesterday's game.

Soldo made a beautiful tap that gave me a glimmer of faith in the value of a ruckman's hit out, but it was but a fleeting moment on a long day.

Blake's area was cohesive team ball movement, and that's where we struggled. I'm hoping the issue is merely that we weren't just missing X number of top players, but we were missing them all of a similar type - creative ball users / leaders. But as it stood for yesterday, our creativity with the ball was gutted and players weren't linking up through long, damaging chains. It was a typical Dimma side that has a crack all day but struggles to score.

As for the tall forwards... I'd always rather a good, strong 188cm footballer in the goal square than a slow-to-react and not-very-strong 196cm+ person, I really don't understand why pure height is valued so highly in this game when you need to be smart enough to get into position first (for an imperfect pass with 15-30% degrees of error per kick) and then strong enough to hold that position, and only then, assuming marking ability is equal, only then does height come into play. I see our lack of depth in the KPF department as smart prioritisation, I'd put good defenders and creative midfielders on top of my list for the next draft
 
None of the young talls putting their hands up.
Rioli and Bolton non existent.
Backline looks OK.

Pies will start the season hard and get early wins but will once again run out of legs come finals time and fail again. Will be lovely to watch again
bulldogs will beat them round 1
we will beat them round 2

they will be 0-2 and start imploding from there
thats what i hope anyway lol
 
Got home from the game and watched the replay with Caesar, always different second time round.

Thought the Pies played very Richmond Like

Bit disappointed that a few fringes didn’t take there chance

Liked signs from Dow, CCJ, Stack, Ross and Pickett

Yes, Mr.B, I commented on this earlier in #76: "They're beating us at our own game."
One particular goal really stuck out to me so I wanted to find it. I am rather ashamed to admit it, but I went on the CFC website as I wanted to find it fast - no time to re-watch the whole first half. I was interested to see how much they were crowing about this Marsh Cup win anyway.
Sure enough it's there in 'AFL Top 5, MC Highlights.' It's No.5, the last one.

Such a Richmond style goal where numerous players handle the ball very quickly, almost play some volleyball before dobbing it.

PREnders who still think our game-plan will remain ahead of the pack in '20 are kidding themselves. Other clubs have studied us precisely and will be doing their best to imitate key aspects of our style. It's just a matter of whether they have players with the requisite speed and endurance, skills, confidence, experience and pizzaz to implement it.

Grigg at Geelong and BC joining Rutten at the Bummers will be attempting this, rest assured. I noticed already in the match report for the Bummers win over the Weagles, the descriptor 'their run and gun style ...' That was despite their supposed injury concerns. It's only praccy games but you can still get some clues about clubs' intentions and prepartion.

I'm quietly optimistic but the 2020 flag will be damn tough to win.
 
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I hope we are prepared for their slow chip kicking around playing keeping's off style in round 2, they have got us a couple of times with that style & worked again for them yesterday especially in the first half.
 
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Last season the word was we were 4 weeks behind everyone.
I'm guessing we're going into 2020 the same.
 
I hope we are prepared for their slow chip kicking around playing keeping's off style in round 2, they have got us a couple of times with that style & worked again for them yesterday especially in the first half.

That wont work when its pissing down rain and strong winds blowing across the G.
Plus, they have some king butcher's in the side Treloar, Adams, Maynard and Obree
 
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Last season the word was we were 4 weeks behind everyone.
I'm guessing we're going into 2020 the same.

We only warm up with crowds over 70k.
Hardwick isn't going show the showbag buckley how he will slap them in a months time.
Did they pop the champagne last night?.
Because after round 2 the little pie supporters will be calling for sackings...
 
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Reckon we'll lose to them in rd 2. But that won't be a bad thing.
 
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Reckon we'll lose to them in rd 2. But that won't be a bad thing.

Losing to them is ALWAYS a bad thing.
I cant believe they seem to combat our game when others are ball slappers against us.
Our best is better then there's.
Ko Degoey
Tag Penderbury
Your half way there...
 
bulldogs will beat them round 1
we will beat them round 2

they will be 0-2 and start imploding from there
thats what i hope anyway lol
Don't we all. I'll keep laughing at how they still think Daddy Long Legs is a true weapon for them.
 
How hard does Marlion crack in? Some of his tackles are bordering on assault. I thought we generally tackled hard all day. Just needed more of them.
 
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How hard does Marlion crack in? Some of his tackles are bordering on assault. I thought we generally tackled hard all day. Just needed more of them.
The one in the centre of the ground , I thought he was going to rip De Goeys shoulders out of their sockets
 
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