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Marsh 1 v Collingwood

Yes, Mr.B, I commented on this earlier in #76: "They're beating us at our own game."
One particular goal really stuck out to me so I wanted to find it. I am rather ashamed to admit it, but I went on the CFC website as I wanted to find it fast - no time to re-watch the whole first half. I was interested to see how much they were crowing about this Marsh Cup win anyway.
Sure enough it's there in 'AFL Top 5, MC Highlights.' It's No.5, the last one.

Such a Richmond style goal where numerous players handle the ball very quickly, almost play some volleyball before dobbing it.

PREnders who still think our game-plan will remain ahead of the pack in '20 are kidding themselves. Other clubs have studied us precisely and will be doing their best to imitate key aspects of our style. It's just a matter of whether they have players with the requisite speed and endurance, skills, confidence, experience and pizzaz to implement it.

Grigg at Geelong and BC joining Rutten at the Bummers will be attempting this, rest assured. I noticed already in the match report for the Bummers win over the Weagles, the descriptor 'their run and gun style ...' That was despite their supposed injury concerns. It's only praccy games but you can still get some clues about clubs' intentions and prepartion.

I'm quietly optimistic but the 2020 flag will be damn tough to win.

If a team can beat us at our own game, good luck to them.

I think you are spot on, teams are going to try to out Richmond us. But as you say, it depends on if they have the players to do it.

Our team has been built to play like this. We have the depth to maintain the rage throughout the season. I really doubt anyone else can go with us all season long. It will be really interesting to see if this will be a tactic only used against us, or if the Pies/Bombers whoever try to do it to other opponents.

Regardless though, our game style takes discipline and belief to implement. We also have at least a couple of years more experience than anyone else at playing this way.

It will be tough to win the 2020 flag for sure, but as the 2019 prelim showed, it is going to be even tougher to get through the Tigers to do it.
 
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Yep, not sure why everyone is down on Jack Ross i thought he played quite well.

Also i were saying to the boys before the game what Dimma said after the game, the Pies were a lot more advanced in their prep having 3 games to our one.

Much prefer tough games leading into the season than walkovers like Essendon.

I am working on the premise that because we are playing Collingwood in round 2 we wanted to show them nothing, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED we showed them ABSOLUTELY nothing :)
I thought the same about Ross. He looked pretty good to me, especially early.
 
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Joke.
christian unbelievable.

fine for Adams.
new that would be the case.

Nick is a tough cookie.
no concussion test apparently.

Head contact.

action vs outcome. Vlaustin not injured all good. Joke.

some quarters were wanting to blame vlaustin as he should be aware his surroundings???

really. ?
 
Can someone please re-post the clip of the Soldo incident last year when he got suspended so we can compare the two clips?
 
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This game was a bit like the one at Moe 3 years ago and that result didn’t indicate how either team finished that season either
 
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Can someone please re-post the clip of the Soldo incident last year when he got suspended so we can compare the two clips?

Please no, that was disgraceful by the MRO. A guy protecting himself, the other guy the aggressor, no one injured. My blood pressure can't handle seeing that again.
 
FYI - some stats from MC1: Frees = C 30/R 20, so a third more to them and the breakdown = D50 6/4, F50 1/4 but mid 23/12 (virtually double). So think about it - if you were wanting to conceal biased umpiring, you would award the bulk of them in the middle where they are less noticeable. A couple our way in our F50 might indicate just how much more interference was being undertaken, so how many more were ignored?
Marks: C = +31. This is a stat that concerns me; need to improve our marking. We play a rather small team and, along with tackling also (ones that stick!), and concede too much advantage in the air. Sure some key marking players out, but still lacking strength in the air across the ground IMO.
 
Marks: C = +31. This is a stat that concerns me; need to improve our marking. We play a rather small team and, along with tackling also (ones that stick!), and concede too much advantage in the air. Sure some key marking players out, but still lacking strength in the air across the ground IMO.

Geez leon, haven't you watched the last few years?

2019 - 17th in Marks per game differential
2018 - 15th
2017 - 14th
 
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Geez leon, haven't you watched the last few years?

2019 - 17th in Marks per game differential
2018 - 15th
2017 - 14th

Still 31 less is a big difference. The end part of our season last year, the winning streak we had more marks than our opposition more times than we didn't. Saying that it isn't your talls that do all the marking. Last year our top 10 markers per game in order were Vlastuin, Houli, Astbury, Grimes, Ellis, Lynch, Stack, Lambert, Short & Reiwoldt.

Collingwood have always tried to play a bit of a keepings off game against us to try and defeat our forward defensive pressure. Round 2 last year they had NINETY-SIX more marks than us. Prelim final previous year Collingwood had 49 more. Round 19 last year we had 6 more. We counteracted their game plan.
 
Still 31 less is a big difference. The end part of our season last year, the winning streak we had more marks than our opposition more times than we didn't. Saying that it isn't your talls that do all the marking. Last year our top 10 markers per game in order were Vlastuin, Houli, Astbury, Grimes, Ellis, Lynch, Stack, Lambert, Short & Reiwoldt.

Collingwood have always tried to play a bit of a keepings off game against us to try and defeat our forward defensive pressure. Round 2 last year they had NINETY-SIX more marks than us. Prelim final previous year Collingwood had 49 more. Round 19 last year we had 6 more. We counteracted their game plan.

Huge difference in all games.
Preliminary final. Perfect conditions
2nd round 2019, perfect conditions
Last meeting, 11' windy and raining.

Collingwood hates the wind and rain.
 
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Geez leon, haven't you watched the last few years?

2019 - 17th in Marks per game differential
2018 - 15th
2017 - 14th

I agree. Our game style, tackling and pressure leads to more frees against. I don't care, it's a winning formula for us.

Likewise uncontested marks against us mean squat. They can chip it around, eventually they turn it over and we score.
 
Still 31 less is a big difference. The end part of our season last year, the winning streak we had more marks than our opposition more times than we didn't. Saying that it isn't your talls that do all the marking. Last year our top 10 markers per game in order were Vlastuin, Houli, Astbury, Grimes, Ellis, Lynch, Stack, Lambert, Short & Reiwoldt.

Good point. Mostly intercept marks.
 
Losing to them is ALWAYS a bad thing.
I cant believe they seem to combat our game when others are ball slappers against us.
Our best is better then there's.
Ko Degoey
Tag Penderbury
Your half way there...
Tag Sidebottom, he is the one that gets us.
 
Still 31 less is a big difference. The end part of our season last year, the winning streak we had more marks than our opposition more times than we didn't. Saying that it isn't your talls that do all the marking. Last year our top 10 markers per game in order were Vlastuin, Houli, Astbury, Grimes, Ellis, Lynch, Stack, Lambert, Short & Reiwoldt.

Collingwood have always tried to play a bit of a keepings off game against us to try and defeat our forward defensive pressure. Round 2 last year they had NINETY-SIX more marks than us. Prelim final previous year Collingwood had 49 more. Round 19 last year we had 6 more. We counteracted their game plan.

No Lynch. no Reiwoldt. No Martin. No Cotchin grunt & leadership. No Edwards creativity. No Houli run.

Get a grip people it was freaking early March. Quoting stats from a meaningless practice match where most of your 10 best are missing is like calling for Balme to take over early in 2019.

I just want a challenger to emerge this season to keep it interesting.
 
I agree. Our game style, tackling and pressure leads to more frees against. I don't care, it's a winning formula for us.

Likewise uncontested marks against us mean squat. They can chip it around, eventually they turn it over and we score.

leon is still learning about tigers football