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Luke McGuane

2 goals from McGuane in the last to help win the game :clap
Dimma knew when it was the right time to unleash McGuane dont underestimate his importance to our forward line
No McGuane no RFC :eek:
 
TigerForce said:
Did he find space to lead and mark? How were the passes into attack....all bomb and hope again?

Why so obsessed about the lead??
Unlike TV who's intensity is low and has trouble getting higher than 30cm off the ground. Mcguane is a gun.
He's almost the polar opposite of Tyrone atm. Hits the contest with all he's got and pressurises oppsition defenders with gusto. Sometimes too much.
Bounces up like a jack in the box.
Also taking his set shots as well as anyone.
Forget his days as a defender, he's a forward now and time to start appreciating what he brings to the team. Right now I'm glad we kept him.
 
Tigers of Old said:
Why so obsessed about the lead??

Obsessed??

For him to stabilise himself a spot in attack, I just want to know how he presents himself.

With this shabby forward line we still have, our forwards should be leading and marking and not just standing and hoping long bombs land in their hands.
 
I've been one of McGuane's biggest critics but he has been impressive this pre-season. Certainly throws himself around more than Vickery in the forward line. I thought Aaron Edwards was going to be a solution for us but he has shown absolutely nothing in the games that he has played.

With this in mind, all credit to McGuane - (never thought Id say that). As long as he provides an option, provides forward pressure bust a pack open and kick 2-3 goals a game, good luck to him I say. His awkwardness may just make him a difficult match up.

Vickery is the one that I'm really worried about.
 
The beauty of McGun is that he tries to make every post a winner. Plasma is starting to look a bit jayded out there.
 
If McGuane can give us something then firstly that is great.

But more importantly, it will further underline to me that we have the right people running key areas of the club. We could have dished him sometime ago, and many of us on here thought we should have.

But the club stuck by him, and if we reap a reward from that, then I think a lot of us need a rethink about our criticism of the club keeping certain players on the list.
 
At the start of the game I told my nephew that McGuane could be a 40 goal a year forward. He almost fell of his seat laughing. But he bobbed up again for a couple of goals. I don't think I will be to far off the mark.
 
Leysy Days said:
Reckon you will be Smokin.

Yep. I don't trust McGuane one iota.
He played 9 games last year, 6 of those teams were complete crap and he kicked 14 goals against them.
The other 3 were solid teams but nothing special, an injury depleted Carlton, middle of the range team in North and Freo in Freo. He was crap in all those games kicking 1 goal.
So now because he kicked a few goals against crap teams in low pressure NAB games people think he is the answer.

I'll believe when I see it against genuine top 8 teams, early in the season when they have full squads available, not injury depleted crap teams at the back end of a season when half of them are tanking or sending their injured players off for early operations. Remember, those were the ones that Mitch Morton would get 25 possies against on the wing and convince people on here he was out future attacking wingman.
 
Juffaricho said:
Yep. I don't trust McGuane one iota.
He played 9 games last year, 6 of those teams were complete crap and he kicked 14 goals against them.
The other 3 were solid teams but nothing special, an injury depleted Carlton, middle of the range team in North and Freo in Freo. He was crap in all those games kicking 1 goal.
So now because he kicked a few goals against crap teams in low pressure NAB games people think he is the answer.

I'll believe when I see it against genuine top 8 teams, early in the season when they have full squads available, not injury depleted crap teams at the back end of a season when half of them are tanking or sending their injured players off for early operations. Remember, those were the ones that Mitch Morton would get 25 possies against on the wing and convince people on here he was out future attacking wingman.

Valid criticisms. But right now he's competing against his teammates for round 1 spots who played worse against the same mediocre opposition in preseason.

It's one thing to not be able to turn it on against A grade opposition (and he's hardly the first forward to be a flat track butcher), but its a worse thing to not turn it on against A, B or C grade opposition.
 
Col.W.Kurtz said:
Valid criticisms. But right now he's competing against his teammates for round 1 spots who played worse against the same mediocre opposition in preseason.

It's one thing to not be able to turn it on against A grade opposition (and he's hardly the first forward to be a flat track butcher), but its a worse thing to not turn it on against A, B or C grade opposition.

Well said Kurtzy. 40 goals is an ambitious number but as of right now he's earned his round 1 spot.
 
Leysy Days said:
Reckon you will be Smokin.
;D Thanks for the vote of confidence Leysy.

Right now he is our 2nd most productive and dangerous forward. He is getting to contests and slotting away the goals when he needs to. Whether this translates in the season proper is to be seen. But right now he is doing all the right things.
 
Juffaricho said:
Yep. I don't trust McGuane one iota.
He played 9 games last year, 6 of those teams were complete crap and he kicked 14 goals against them.
The other 3 were solid teams but nothing special, an injury depleted Carlton, middle of the range team in North and Freo in Freo. He was crap in all those games kicking 1 goal.
So now because he kicked a few goals against crap teams in low pressure NAB games people think he is the answer.

I'll believe when I see it against genuine top 8 teams, early in the season when they have full squads available, not injury depleted crap teams at the back end of a season when half of them are tanking or sending their injured players off for early operations.

That is all fair enough that you hold reservations about Luke.
However, simply because some of us have pointed out that he has out-performed the other blokes capable of playing in that position (given that Astbury is injured and Griffs is only being played in defence), does not imply that anyone considers him the answer. He will play a role - contest and hit a pack, maybe kick a couple.

He is not perfect, but given the options we have taking into consideration the coaches preferences (see Griff), who would you play there... A. Edwards, Big X, or young Elton?
 
It's good to have hope but expecting 40 goals from Lukey is unrealistic. I,d expect 15 goals from ten games.
 
Juffaricho said:
Yep. I don't trust McGuane one iota.
He played 9 games last year, 6 of those teams were complete crap and he kicked 14 goals against them.
The other 3 were solid teams but nothing special, an injury depleted Carlton, middle of the range team in North and Freo in Freo. He was crap in all those games kicking 1 goal.
So now because he kicked a few goals against crap teams in low pressure NAB games people think he is the answer.

I'll believe when I see it against genuine top 8 teams, early in the season when they have full squads available, not injury depleted crap teams at the back end of a season when half of them are tanking or sending their injured players off for early operations. Remember, those were the ones that Mitch Morton would get 25 possies against on the wing and convince people on here he was out future attacking wingman.

There are still some mighty big ifs with McGuane no doubt.
 
tigertim said:
It's good to have hope but expecting 40 goals from Lukey is unrealistic. I,d expect 15 goals from ten games.
I'd be happy with 25 goals from 20/22 games. If he can take a smidgin of heat off Jaaack n Swish plus put some doubt into the defenders minds by crashing a few packs n providing crumbs then averaging a sniff over a goal per game as the third tall would be a handy return.
The overall goal return is not the major priority from Luke. As Dimma says he just loves the way Luke contests.
 
TigerMasochist said:
I'd be happy with 25 goals from 20/22 games. If he can take a smidgin of heat off Jaaack n Swish plus put some doubt into the defenders minds by crashing a few packs n providing crumbs then averaging a sniff over a goal per game as the third tall would be a handy return.
The overall goal return is not the major priority from Luke. As Dimma says he just loves the way Luke contests.
....and if he's doing all that then you would assume that TV, Jack, Nahas, King etc will all reap the benefits also.