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Luke McGuane

spook said:
Footy's a man's game. McGuane's a man. Boys need men to help them learn to be men. We have a lot of boys.

There is a lot in this spook.

Hardwick understands what makes successful clubs. Bludgers with talent are like a cancer. Young blokes see them show boating at training, kicking them from the boundary, cruising around like it's all a game.

Dimma knows its not a game. He gets rid of the loafers and keeps blokes that are prepared to make sacrifices. McGuane for all his flaws has some admirable qualities. The sort of qualities that good footy clubs demand.
Hopefully he won't play much next year but having him on the list will ensure that whoever has his spot will play like its for their career.

Because they know that Mcguane, given the chance will do the same.
 
Dyer'ere said:
Griffiths. Post. Astbury. Elton. Typical tall boys once, now young men. They won't fly. Muscles can beat them in the air at training. In a game. He can show them the way. Boys, young men, men learn by doing. Show. Do.
Calling BS on this one. Elton loves the contested marks.
 
TigerForce said:
Delisting Browne only leaves Derickx as the 200cm who could work alongside Ivan. Gus is gone and should be delisted or just used at Coburg for back up to injuries.

I think it's silly to bag Derickx just for the GC stuff up. I'd give him time to develop in the 1sts with Ivan if we can't find anyone else to ruck for now.
No it doesn't. Provided Vickery gets on the pitch that role is clearly his.

Getting rid of Tom is not based on GC game. It's due to being a spud.
 
Danog said:
Calling BS on this one. Elton loves the contested marks.

He likes floating in from the side to a existing contest, which he is excellent at. Shoulder to shoulder McGuane would eat Elton alive, as should any mid 20s key position player on an AFL list.
 
Col.W.Kurtz said:
He likes floating in from the side to a existing contest, which he is excellent at. Shoulder to shoulder McGuane would eat Elton alive, as should any mid 20s key position player on an AFL list.

Bit harsh. No doubt McGuane should beat Elton at this stage of his development, but I saw him win many of his own contests at Coburg, quite resoundingly.

Have no concern at all with his contested marking. My concern is with how he browned his pants on any sort of angle after taking the mark.
 
mld said:
Bit harsh. No doubt McGuane should beat Elton at this stage of his development, but I saw him win many of his own contests at Coburg, quite resoundingly.

Absolutely, I wasn't knocking Elton at all. I just don't expect a kid of his build and raw talent to be able to beat AFL listed mature bodies straight away. The kids who came come out as a 18 year old and play well in a key position post are rare indeed and go very high in the draft.

In 3 years time I would be very disappointed if Elton couldn't flog McGuane, but right now I would expect McGuane to beat him in most situations.
 
Yep, just taking issue with the idea of him only floating in on other contests when that hasn't been a feature of his game at all.
 
mld said:
Yep, just taking issue with the idea of him only floating in on other contests when that hasn't been a feature of his game at all.

Have to disagree there, I reckon I've seen him take a whole lot of lovely 3rd man in grabs. It's one of the the things that has me exited about him.
 
Col.W.Kurtz said:
Have to disagree there, I reckon I've seen him take a whole lot of lovely 3rd man in grabs. It's one of the the things that has me exited about him.

I didn't mean he didn't do it, more taking issue with the idea that that was all he wanted to do.
 
mld said:
I didn't mean he didn't do it, more taking issue with the idea that that was all he wanted to do.

Nah, I wasn't saying he was soft, he just needs to spend a few summers in the weights room.

It was interesting when Todd came out he said he'd be coached in juniors to get on his bike and not stand there and wrestle with his opponent. I actually wonder if that was good coaching, because all AFL key position players have to learn how to deal with the one on one stuff at some stage. Any junior can play to their strength, it's becoming the complete package that makes you a 100-200 game player.
 
josey said:
McGuane for all his flaws has some admirable qualities. The sort of qualities that good footy clubs demand.

What are they? :headscratch

If this dud is anywhere near our best 22, then as optimistic as I have been, I'm afraid we can draw the curtain and turn off the light because we won't be playing finals again next season.
 
tiger12 said:
What are they? :headscratch

If this dud is anywhere near our best 22, then as optimistic as I have been, I'm afraid we can draw the curtain and turn off the light because we won't be playing finals again next season.

I didn't realize McGun had that much influence on the team to single handedly determine whether we play finals or not.
 
tiger12 said:
What are they? :headscratch

If this dud is anywhere near our best 22, then as optimistic as I have been, I'm afraid we can draw the curtain and turn off the light because we won't be playing finals again next season.
Facts:
He's not a dud.
He's not in our best 22.
He's always been a loyal determined trier.
He can continue to be a depth player to be called on when required.
 
He's not in our best 22. If McGuane is to force his way into the team, it has to be on exceptional performance at Coburg. To keep his spot, he'd need to average 2 goals a game and fully play the lead up CHF role that we badly need.

While he was ok in the later half of the year, he still made too many bad errors (e.g. Freo game); didn't take enough marks as the lead up option and was inclined to get too close to and compete with Jack. This contributed to the bomb it long tactic that we went back to too often in bringing the ball into the forward line.

Our CHF needs to have footy smarts and be a great ball user when he wins it. Not sure that McGuane could consistently reach that level - hasn't so far in a reasonably lengthy career. Having said that, if LRT can do it for Sydney (who I've only ever thought of as a battler like McGuane), maybe he could surprise. Have my doubts though.
 
Tenacious said:
Facts:
He's not a dud.
He's always been a loyal determined trier.

Fact: These types have held us back for ten years.
Fact: He needs to go.
 
SCOOP said:
Fact: These types have held us back for ten years.
Fact: He needs to go.

Correct. Not sure if the young guys need this kind of onfield leadership.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POvvzqYZCD0&feature=related

Or this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qog4k4fKY-M

You could almost get the same sort of panicked vision from most games he played in defence. Thankfully when he does his Benny Hill stuff now it's in our forward line.