Luke McGuane

[poppa x]

A question for the Suns.
Who'd you rather have on your list.
Muscles or Brennan?
I think they'll off load Brennan and make a play for Luke under Free Agency.

 

[Brooklyn Tiger]

geez muscles is getting more and more love as the season finishes..... has the tide turned?? Personally i hope not. I would rather draft a fwd. Better yet, get cloke. Mcguane is expendable. lets not get fooled by a couple decent games. that shouldn't be enough to save a career, surely. Lets groom, Griff, astbury (or both) and we have O'Hanlon coming through too.

 

[Brooklyn Tiger]

A question for the Suns.
Who'd you rather have on your list.
Muscles or Brennan?
I think they'll off load Brennan and make a play for Luke under Free Agency.

Hope they do sign Muscles. Read somewhere about the 5 compensation bands for free agents with the last band being a 3rd rd pick. Reckon even that would be a very generous pick for him.

 

[tigertim]

geez muscles is getting more and more love as the season finishes..... has the tide turned?? Personally i hope not. I would rather draft a fwd. Better yet, get cloke. Mcguane is expendable. lets not get fooled by a couple decent games. that shouldn't be enough to save a career, surely. Lets groom, Griff, astbury (or both) and we have O'Hanlon coming through too.

yep, its a strange place PRE sometimes. How many times gave we seen a guy play some good games at the end of the season against weak opposition? Fools gold.

 

[Tenacious]

He's not worth top 10 at Coburg!

Players should be kept because they offer something to the club, not because they're cheap. If the Richmond Football Club is serious about reaching the upper levels of this competition players like McGuane cannot be on the list. Moore saw the light. Miller saw the light. Here's hoping the club see's the light with respect to this bloke.

You are misrepresenting things.
Nobody is saying keep him on only because he's cheap. It's been stated by various posters (myself included) that he does offer something to the club as a worthwhile depth player.
It was then pointed out (despite your false claim earlier) that he would most likely only attract a modest salary which could suit both parties i.e. club and player.

You don't have to agree with this - but you shouldn't make stuff up to suit your view.

 

[CarnTheTiges]

A question for the Suns.
Who'd you rather have on your list.
Muscles or Brennan?
I think they'll off load Brennan and make a play for Luke under Free Agency.

If I were the Suns I'd rather McGuane. For all his failings Luke always gives 110%, I don't know that you can say the same for Brennan.

 

[Ian4]

You're getting repetitive

actually i don't brand many players duds.

...he is worth keeping ..we need depth in our list..and although he isn't and shouldn't be in our fist 22 we need someone like him around who can step in when there are

thats fine, but it doesn't mean some players should be kept simply for depth. why can't we improve depth by recruiting and drafting?

yep, its a strange place PRE sometimes. How many times gave we seen a guy play some good games at the end of the season against weak opposition? Fools gold.

this.

 

[ILuvLids]

I would rather draft a fwd.

We actually drafted Luke McGuane as a forward and he played all his junior footy as a forward. I would think Luke deserves to have one more year and do a whole pre-season with the forward line. What did we need this year after Vickery went out? Someone to take the pressure off Jack which is what Luke has done. He can take a good mark and always puts in 100% effort.

 

[doherz]

geez muscles is getting more and more love as the season finishes..... has the tide turned?? Personally i hope not. I would rather draft a fwd. Better yet, get cloke. Mcguane is expendable. lets not get fooled by a couple decent games. that shouldn't be enough to save a career, surely. Lets groom, Griff, astbury (or both) and we have O'Hanlon coming through too.

Yes coz Cloke played so well last night. Just what we need, another underperforming forward.
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[Fighting Fury]

Yes coz Cloke played so well last night. Just what we need, another underperforming forward.
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this

Cloke has (allegedly) one of the best midfields feeding him and he still can't get near it. We would be mad...

 

[Barnzy]

this

Cloke has (allegedly) one of the best midfields feeding him and he still can't get near it. We would be mad...

Use your brain.

Cloke was the 2nd best key forward last year and was ultra dominant. Before that he's had very good seasons too.

Now suddenly with all the media attention and distractions about his contract and where he's going to be next year his form has dropped massively. It's not hard to put 2 and 2 together. Gun players don't just suddenly lose all ability. It's still there.

If anything it's a good thing his form has been down, means he comes cheaper and Collingwood less likely to want to match offers.

 

[Fighting Fury]

That's just it. I don't think he is a gun.

Just had an out-of-the-box very good year with a very good team feeding him.

His marking was his feature...now he can't even get hands to it.

He was excellent, he is now fair/good (big and mobile still) but in a monumental form slump (of his own doing if you believe that his contract battle is affecting his game) ...sure he has a chance to come out of it, but to return to play the way he did ?? And you want to bet a 5 yr million dollar contract on it....

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Use your brain.

Cloke was the 2nd best key forward last year and was ultra dominant. Before that he's had very good seasons too.

Now suddenly with all the media attention and distractions about his contract and where he's going to be next year his form has dropped massively. It's not hard to put 2 and 2 together. Gun players don't just suddenly lose all ability. It's still there.

If anything it's a good thing his form has been down, means he comes cheaper and Collingwood less likely to want to match offers.

I think the Cloke situation is having a negative effect on Collingwood. I'd love to have Cloke at Richmond if he wanted to play here, but I think his loyalty belongs to the highest bidder. The club's worked too hard on changing its culture to risk having it upset by one player, however good.

 

[D85]

Use your brain.

Cloke was the 2nd best key forward last year and was ultra dominant. Before that he's had very good seasons too.

Now suddenly with all the media attention and distractions about his contract and where he's going to be next year his form has dropped massively. It's not hard to put 2 and 2 together. Gun players don't just suddenly lose all ability. It's still there.

If anything it's a good thing his form has been down, means he comes cheaper and Collingwood less likely to want to match offers.

does say a lot about his mental strength tho.

i dont think we should keep mcguane, but he has been good as a forward. id almost be open to putting him in the brad miller rookie insurance role.

 

[zippadeee]

Another 3 or 4 goal preformance against port will see Carey Mcguane secure his position on the list in 2013. :clap

 

[Fighting Fury]

Don't think we should keep McGuane either.

 

[Collo]

If RFC think we have the depth next year in our bigs then let him go if not sign him for another year or 2 just for some kind of depth. So if we cop a long list of injuries to our talls then at least we have someone who isnt an 18 year old raw big who just can't compete. He can crash and bash and kick a few against the ordinary sides.

 

[Brooklyn Tiger]

Yes coz Cloke played so well last night. Just what we need, another underperforming forward.
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whatever, i also mentioned that i would rather draft a fwd.... if its not cloke, then fine. I also mentioned griff, astbury and ofcourse we have TV coming back. I just don't want it to be mcguane.

In any case, i reckon cloke would be alot better off without the contract stuff hanging over him. If you were concerned about your job reckon your performance might not be upto sratch too.

We actually drafted Luke McGuane as a forward and he played all his junior footy as a forward. I would think Luke deserves to have one more year and do a whole pre-season with the forward line. What did we need this year after Vickery went out? Someone to take the pressure off Jack which is what Luke has done. He can take a good mark and always puts in 100% effort.

And it didn't work out for him. So lets go and draft another.

 

[chaz]

I think the Cloke situation is having a negative effect on Collingwood. I'd love to have Cloke at Richmond if he wanted to play here, but I think his loyalty belongs to the highest bidder. The club's worked too hard on changing its culture to risk having it upset by one player, however good.

I was thinking how i would reply to this thread and you covered it perfectly for me thanks, Cloke every time his contract comes up the same thing happens, last one didn't daddy come out and say he may leave if he didn.t get what he wants

Seriously we have something building here, not only the talent and we will bring more of that in dont worry, its the commaradary and the closeness of this group we can't afford to lose that for a player and or a family who just continue to put themselves above the club and people in it

 

[pahoffm]

If clubs can tank, why can't individual players?

What AFL rule says that a player must perform at his peak ability every week?

Just asking questions.

Ah, but zee Fuhrer tells us that clubs don't tank so it must be true.