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Liam McBean

Baloo said:
Please enlighten me, I'd love to understand how performances of last year should be a factor in this years debate on selection. McBean needs a run at it, I don't think anyone disagrees, but you do your arguments a massive disservice if you keep alluding to last years performances.

Baloo, you like creating conflict out of strawman arguments you throw up as distractions. It's what you do. It's who you are. Good luck to you in your endeavours.
 
lamb22 said:
Baloo, you like creating conflict out of strawman arguments you throw up as distractions. It's what you do. It's who you are. Good luck to you in your endeavours.

What, like how you play the man whenever you can't or won't answer a straight question? It was a straight up question to a post you made. The only straw seems to be falling out of the scarecrows hat.
 
lamb22 said:
Baloo, you like creating conflict out of strawman arguments you throw up as distractions. .....

Like using last year's stats to pump up this year's form? If Liam played like that every week he would have been selected long ago. Fingers crossed the development holds him in good stead for the future.
 
rosy3 said:
Like using last year's stats to pump up this year's form? If Liam played like that every week he would have been selected long ago. Fingers crossed the development holds him in good stead for the future.

Liam has played much better than that very often. I am amazed you even enter this debate when you have hardly seen him play.
 
lamb22 said:
Liam has played much better than that very often. I am amazed you even enter this debate when you have hardly seen him play.

Hey lamby when you say McBean not in the best I suspect you are talking the best listed from the VFL site? You do realise they aren't awarded by the RFC?

Now from the club "Castagna verified his AFL-credentials as he bundled three goals with 23 disposals, while McBean (two goals) and Andrew Moore (team-high 24 disposals) also pushed their claim".
 
lamb22 said:
Those who feel he is a chance may be a tad optimistic. That was about a 6 out of 10 game for Beanie on the Beanie scale. He has had 8, 9 and 10 out of ten games which didn't get rewarded.

Baloo. This is the above quote you want to twist of context.

1. It is accurate in that Beanie has had many better games and was not subsequently rewarded with senior selection. I thought that while Beanie's use by hand was excellent as usual, I have seen him much better by foot and also mark better in other games. I have also seen him generally sharper in a lot of other games.

2. As he has not been rewarded when he has played better, my comment is pertinent and relevant to Beanie's chances for selection this week as past behaviour is a guide to future behaviour.

Simple statement which I thought you might comprehend accurately but apparently not. Knock yourself out twisting the context to suit your objectives.
 
lamb22 said:
1. It is accurate in that Beanie has had many better games and was not subsequently rewarded with senior selection. I thought that while Beanie's use by hand was excellent as usual, I have seen him much better by foot and also mark better in other games. I have also seen him generally sharper in a lot of other games.

2. As he has not been rewarded when he has played better, my comment is pertinent and relevant to Beanie's chances for selection this week as past behaviour is a guide to future behaviour.

Just not this year though.
 
Baloo said:
Just not this year though.

The statement does not have a temporal limitation or qualification. It is at present accurate and relevant. Accordingly it is accurate and relevant this year.
 
lamb22 said:
The statement does not have a temporal limitation or qualification. It is at present accurate and relevant. Accordingly it is accurate and relevant this year.

the discussion is around the chances of McJesus's selection this week. His performances last year have zero relevance to that.
 
Baloo said:
the discussion is around the chances of McJesus's selection this week. His performances last year have zero relevance to that.

Is that what you are arguing?
 
lamb22 said:
Is that what you are arguing?

No, I'm arguing your use of lasts years performances to justify your argument on his lack of chances to be elevated this week is drawing the longest of long bows.
 
Baloo said:
No, I'm arguing your use of lasts years performances to justify your argument on his lack of chances to be elevated this week is drawing the longest of long bows.

So was it the Montessorri or Steiner schools you attended?
 
rosy3 said:
Like using last year's stats to pump up this year's form? If Liam played like that every week he would have been selected long ago. Fingers crossed the development holds him in good stead for the future.

Turn it up Rosy. Has played better on many occasions.
 
lamb22 said:
Gee you are a one man troll and confected outrage band. Nice work.

Still at it I see. Just can't give it up when you can't win an argument on merit can you. What's next, another hollow threat to burn your membership if McJesus doesn't get selected ?
 
So, when Baloo and Rosy say "oh yeah Beano had a good game and should be selected in the seniors this week" Lamby and Carter still find a way of saying "YOU'RE WRONG".

*shakes head*
 
Baloo said:
Still at it I see. Just can't give it up when you can't win an argument on merit can you. What's next, another hollow threat to burn your membership if McJesus doesn't get selected ?

Pretty hard to win an argument when you are arguing both sides of an argument you invented.
 
antman said:
So, when Baloo and Rosy say "oh yeah Beano had a good game and should be selected in the seniors this week" Lamby and Carter still find a way of saying "YOU'RE WRONG".

*shakes head*

Is that his argument? Baloo has a very belligerent way of agreeing with me then! ;D