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Liam McBean
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Re: Re: Damien Hardwick [Merged]
I am happy for every Tiger who plays well. You didn't sound too impressed with a report you posted about Liam..prompting others to ask if you even saw him. Don't forget he had a poor effectiveness rating. Top 18 players shouldn't turn over almost half of their possessions in the AFL let alone playing VFL. i hope Liam is a top 18 Tiger in time...it's fantasy to claim he's there yet just the same.
lamb22 said:
I am happy for every Tiger who plays well. You didn't sound too impressed with a report you posted about Liam..prompting others to ask if you even saw him. Don't forget he had a poor effectiveness rating. Top 18 players shouldn't turn over almost half of their possessions in the AFL let alone playing VFL. i hope Liam is a top 18 Tiger in time...it's fantasy to claim he's there yet just the same.
Re: Re: Damien Hardwick [Merged]
All due respect, Rosy, I think you may be overstating his "effectiveness rating". He used the ball extremely well on the weekend, and was one of the few who was able to actually create by hand and foot. The game was extremely scrappy, and Richmond as a whole were unable to find space.
Beanie was often delivering into an undermanned forward line (as shown by his four inside fifties), and the ball was chopped off by the defenders a few times. But he was also able to pick through that a few times, and set up a number of shots on goal.
Also had a beautiful use by hand to set up a bloke running into an open goal (who then missed).
There's absolutely nothing wrong with his skill, ball use, speed of mind, or decision making.
In fact, this has always been his strength and he certainly would be top 18 on our list in this particular facet of his game.
The knock from the coaches has always been about his big man game. And on the weekend he was the dominant big man on the field. Contested marking (4), marks around the ground (10) and generally making contests (worked extremely hard).
He's putting his hand up for selection, certainly.
The question is whether (a) there is a spot for him or (b) the coach is willing to experiment with structures to include him.
rosy23 said:
All due respect, Rosy, I think you may be overstating his "effectiveness rating". He used the ball extremely well on the weekend, and was one of the few who was able to actually create by hand and foot. The game was extremely scrappy, and Richmond as a whole were unable to find space.
Beanie was often delivering into an undermanned forward line (as shown by his four inside fifties), and the ball was chopped off by the defenders a few times. But he was also able to pick through that a few times, and set up a number of shots on goal.
Also had a beautiful use by hand to set up a bloke running into an open goal (who then missed).
There's absolutely nothing wrong with his skill, ball use, speed of mind, or decision making.
In fact, this has always been his strength and he certainly would be top 18 on our list in this particular facet of his game.
The knock from the coaches has always been about his big man game. And on the weekend he was the dominant big man on the field. Contested marking (4), marks around the ground (10) and generally making contests (worked extremely hard).
He's putting his hand up for selection, certainly.
The question is whether (a) there is a spot for him or (b) the coach is willing to experiment with structures to include him.
60% effectiveness isn't terrible for a guy playing the role he played on the weekend. Better than a few of his colleagues in the seniors!
Not that the stats tell the whole story. It's the quality of the effective disposals that really matters (ranged from good to a couple of genuinely sublime touches), and the often weird definition of what constitutes 'ineffective' (eg genuine clangers vs a good kick to advantage that the intended recipient somehow manages to stuff up).
And yeah, I watched him play (given that seems to be the new prerequisite when it comes to voicing an opinion on the Beanster these days.)
Anyway, from what I've seen, I rate him and would love to see him developing his game in the seniors, the way others have been afforded the opportunity to do.
Not that the stats tell the whole story. It's the quality of the effective disposals that really matters (ranged from good to a couple of genuinely sublime touches), and the often weird definition of what constitutes 'ineffective' (eg genuine clangers vs a good kick to advantage that the intended recipient somehow manages to stuff up).
And yeah, I watched him play (given that seems to be the new prerequisite when it comes to voicing an opinion on the Beanster these days.)
Anyway, from what I've seen, I rate him and would love to see him developing his game in the seniors, the way others have been afforded the opportunity to do.
Re-invent Liam McBean
I see many people knock Liam McBean. And I see many people demand he get a go in the team. Can he be re-invented as a backman playing Troy Chaplin's role? I saw him last year against Collingwood when we over run them after a slow start. I think he could be made into a good back.
I see many people knock Liam McBean. And I see many people demand he get a go in the team. Can he be re-invented as a backman playing Troy Chaplin's role? I saw him last year against Collingwood when we over run them after a slow start. I think he could be made into a good back.
Re: Re-invent Liam McBean
I doubt McBean will play another game at RFC, as either a backman or a forward.
I doubt McBean will play another game at RFC, as either a backman or a forward.
Re: Re-invent Liam McBean
Easter's gone, guess we better Frankenstein him.Cotchin_4_brownlow said:
Re: Re-invent Liam McBean
Whist Hardwck has a say in selection there will be no second coming of the Messiah
Whist Hardwck has a say in selection there will be no second coming of the Messiah
Re: Re-invent Liam McBean
Disagree. The compliments and positive comments about McJesus's game have come from many sources at RFC. The cynical would say it's an Organised campaign to let McJesus know he's doing what's been asked.
They'll give him a run soon as long as he keeps up last weeks effort and intent.
UKTiger said:
Disagree. The compliments and positive comments about McJesus's game have come from many sources at RFC. The cynical would say it's an Organised campaign to let McJesus know he's doing what's been asked.
They'll give him a run soon as long as he keeps up last weeks effort and intent.
Re: Re-invent Liam McBean
I hope we don't go for Jenkins, he'd be a failure at Richmond. Don't think he's any better than what we've got. Loves a cheap over the back goal.Tigaman said:
Re: Re-invent Liam McBean
Did we need a new thread to discuss all things McBean :headscratch
olice:
There's 457 pages here http://puntroadend.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=47403.6840
Did we need a new thread to discuss all things McBean :headscratch
olice: There's 457 pages here http://puntroadend.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=47403.6840
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