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Liam McBean
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I agree with other posters talking about a slow but steady approach to McBean's inclusion in the seniors. However, should the Tigers fall out of the race for a spot in the eight, I would happily see McBean be given a couple of games at season's end to give him a taste before leading into a big pre-season.
.lamb22 said:
The last man who had to work so hard before debut has seven flags and the games record.
I'd play him against St Kilda regardless. We'll win anyway, and with Vickery due back the next week, we can road test a three-tall forward structure and see if it's worth taking in against Sydney, and into the finals.
And maybe the Bean kicks the first 5 of 20-odd in a glorious six week adventure we'll never stop talking about.
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I still remember his hit out earlier this year in the pre season game. He was totally stuffed and therefore had no impact on the game. Its a while ago now, but I just can't see how he could have built up his tank sufficiently over the season given he has been injured also.
Essendon's forward line was stuffed on Friday night and despite how good Daniher will be, he was totally ineffectual and was one of the reasons they lost on the weekend - you can't carry a player like that in todays game. With Griffiths hitting some form, I can't see a spot for McBean this year and I am not sure that gifting him one or two late games will make that much difference to his development in the long term.
The interesting question for me is out of Daniher and McBean, one has been fast tracked into the seniors, the other given time to develop quietly out of the limelight and pressures of AFL, how their performances stack up when they are 25 or 26.
I am happy for McBean to start a serious push for the seniors beginning next season.
Essendon's forward line was stuffed on Friday night and despite how good Daniher will be, he was totally ineffectual and was one of the reasons they lost on the weekend - you can't carry a player like that in todays game. With Griffiths hitting some form, I can't see a spot for McBean this year and I am not sure that gifting him one or two late games will make that much difference to his development in the long term.
The interesting question for me is out of Daniher and McBean, one has been fast tracked into the seniors, the other given time to develop quietly out of the limelight and pressures of AFL, how their performances stack up when they are 25 or 26.
I am happy for McBean to start a serious push for the seniors beginning next season.
year of the tiger said:
Good post YOTT. I'd add that not only was Beanie stuffed in the pre season games, I was at the Melbourne game and he looked completely lost.
agree. With Griff already in the team and TV pushing for the other tall spot in Rnd 23 (if there is one?) there's no point in rushing Mcbean.year of the tiger said:
I've assumed that Maric & Griff will remain are core ruck/forward duo for the remainder of the year. Do you seriously think that Dimma would select Mcbean ahead of Vickery for round 23 (assuming we go for a 3 tall forward line)? I can't see it.
It was a slow plody game - not only could McBean not keep up, he was blowing up badly. But point taken.lamb22 said:
I like TV's mental issues.
He will come straight in round 23. and so he should. Opposition coaches would go 'beauty' when they see TV in the OUTS:
Let Lean 'n Mean win the VFL coleman, and unleash him round 1 2015. or in the grandfinal.
He will come straight in round 23. and so he should. Opposition coaches would go 'beauty' when they see TV in the OUTS:
Let Lean 'n Mean win the VFL coleman, and unleash him round 1 2015. or in the grandfinal.
Yep, definitely worth following the growth n development of both these tall pelicans, each seems to have plenty of ability, just a matter of waiting till they reach their maturity. Thought pattern for some clubs regarding the mega talls nowadays almost seems to be, just let some one else do the hard yards developing them n then poach them when they are about 24 to 26 and prime. Think it's far to easy for the tall skinny unco youngsters to get repeatedly smashed when thrown in to deep to early.year of the tiger said:
We've got Tyrone at 24 / 25 nearing the hundred games who seems to be the love / hate child because he doesn't play the crash n bash ruck or power forward role, more a finesse player, but still handy from limited touch.
The Griffinator just turned 23 and thirty games who most had virtually given up on, sublime skills in all categories but injuries early n minimal impact on games, been hovering on the fringes and finally starting to put the titbits together to produce a gourmet banquet.
The Tigerbeanie just turning 20 n obviously still lacking the physical mass n body development to survive the constant physical pounding at AFL level. Plenty of skills n mobility and kicking bags at VFL level while also trying to learn the defensive requirements for AFL level and build his stamina. Got a feeling it might only be cameo's for Beanie over the next couple of years while we let him grow up.
Elton John, bit of an enigma at the moment, just turned 21 a few months back , apart from one senior game a couple of years ago has been developing in the magoos. Been playing as a bit of a handy man, jack of all trades, back, forward n ruck without owning any area.
Obviously our three mature mega tall imports, Eevan, Hamster n Orifice were brought in to fill a gaping hole in our list n don't come into consideration in comparison to these young home grown players.
I know plenty on here have bemoaned our development process of tall players, but I'm thinking we may just about have gotten it right over the last four or five years, we could very easily have three quality talls, plus a handy back up tall dominating over the next six or seven years.
