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Jay Schulz [Merged]
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Col.W.Kurtz said:
And here we have the crux of our problem. Richo has no trouble picking up 20 touches in a game but can't kick to save his life, Schulz is a very reliable kick but can't find the ball.
Maybe the tactic from now should be for Richo to take the mark, fake an injury and retreat for treatment while Schulz kicks the goal for him. Schulz as the designated kicker!
zips said:
I'd love to see Terry have the cahunas to sit Richo out of a game and see what transpires. Might as well be a game we're going to be belted in - Geelong or Saints - in the hope that the midfield learn to look and see what options are available, not constantly searching for Richo. Its ridiculous and incredibly frustrating to watch. I didn't see the game yesterday, (but enjoyed Rhett's blog - many thanks Rhett). I understand Terry's coaching left a lot to be desired too.
Tend to agree that the Sarge looks better in defence. I forget exactly when but in one passage of play out of defence he hit a target kicking with his opposite foot. Not a match winning passage of play I admit, but I can't remember the last time I have seen a tall Tiger defender that can:
(a) consistently hit targets by foot
(b) kick with both feet accurately
Putting him into the forward line yesterday was a bit like robbing Peter to pay Paul. Sure he kicked a few nice goals (nice leap over the pack for one), but our defence missed his presence also. Agree that it was ridiculous the way our midfield knows no other strategy than "kick it to Richo" with a 4 to 1 contest.
(a) consistently hit targets by foot
(b) kick with both feet accurately
Putting him into the forward line yesterday was a bit like robbing Peter to pay Paul. Sure he kicked a few nice goals (nice leap over the pack for one), but our defence missed his presence also. Agree that it was ridiculous the way our midfield knows no other strategy than "kick it to Richo" with a 4 to 1 contest.
BladeTiger said:
I think floating between half back and forward is Jay's go. He gets into the game at half back and can hurt you up forward. I think Polak and Jay can alternate between those positions.
I thought our defence was OK considering the deluge they were under. Moore Thursty and Polak provided 21 one % between them - worked very hard. Our smaller backs had more of a mixed day.
I think Riewoldt needs to come in - also versatile who can play forward and back. Cleve is very one dimensional and on yesterday's kicking none dimensional!
lamb22 said:
I think the last line is very pertinent lamb.
In the key position roles Polak & Schulz are at least displaying versatility. Cleve currently does not have that string to his bow & nerves or not, he has certainly GOT to make the most of his opportunities if he is going to play as a specialist forward.
At a pinch he may be worth giving another shot this week but he'd want to take his chance if it's lucky enough to come because another 7 possessions, one goal game up front won't cut it.
With guys kicking bags at Coburg his position will rightly come under scrutiny at the table this week.
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Bill James
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Watched the game again with paticular note on Sarge. Big grab in the backline. Some good rebounds, he is good by foot. One of many who stood Corey for a goal against.
Went forward, one goal from a hang on a Richo pack, one goal from a soft free kick, one goal from a lead where he somehow ended up behind his player but Delidio managed to hit him anyway, it was a great kick by Lids. Ball bounced into his arms a couple of times and made him look good out on the flanks.
I saw only one full hit up mark on the lead. Preferred Hughes game, he is starting to present in the right places and throw a bit of weight around. Neither of them light my fire yet but I would back Hughes in front of Schulz to be a key forward.
I'd like to see Sarge down back more, he is quick has good foot passing and I think he is better when lead to the ball than trying to work our where to go himself.
Went forward, one goal from a hang on a Richo pack, one goal from a soft free kick, one goal from a lead where he somehow ended up behind his player but Delidio managed to hit him anyway, it was a great kick by Lids. Ball bounced into his arms a couple of times and made him look good out on the flanks.
I saw only one full hit up mark on the lead. Preferred Hughes game, he is starting to present in the right places and throw a bit of weight around. Neither of them light my fire yet but I would back Hughes in front of Schulz to be a key forward.
I'd like to see Sarge down back more, he is quick has good foot passing and I think he is better when lead to the ball than trying to work our where to go himself.
Bill James said:
LOL ok I'll bite. ;D
You have got to be shitting us Bill? There's bias and then there's bias. Better game from Cleve??? :stir
If Jay Schulz had been in Cleve Hughes's jumper yesterday you would have bagged the absolute daylights out of him for low possessions, low goals and low conversion.
Hughes will likely be dropped this week.
hughes has had just two games imo hes done enough. lets give him a block of 5 and then evaluate what hes done and what he needs to work onTigers of Old said:
probably at coburg for awhile.
riewoldt needs to come into the side lets give him a block of 5games and do the same thing.if hes struggled back to coburg find form and work on what needs working on then back up for another block of 5.
as much as i dont like aspects of mortons game he has earnt a spot in the seniors again lets give him a sustained go weather he struggles in the first two or three or not. after all its not about winning games atm it is about developing these kids.
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Bill James
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Tigers of Old said:
Didn't say I liked Hughes game, said I preferred it to Sarges. Quite simply Hughes is starting to run through CHF on the lead and take marks. Sarge doesn't do that, he is out on the flank, or hanging behind Richo's packs or running behind his opponent. For mine Hughes shows more potential as a KF and I am happy to wear that if proven wrong in time. I prefer to see Sarge down back, he is quick, has good footpassing skills and I think is better when lead to the ball.
As to bagging *smile* if he had a game like Hughes, I think you will find I was a good supporter of Sarges potential deep into his third year. Hughes is only just starting his third year.
Cleve Hughes is very very very (did I say very?) slow and nothing will change that. Granted, he found himself in the right position a couple of times but there is no way he has a long term future as a KF at AFL level. He reminds me of a couple of guys Fitzroy tried before they were exterminated - Mellington, & McGrath. No mobility, no ability below the knees. Your not gonna get it on a plate playing for Richmond, sometimes you gotta be able to fight for it yourself on the ground. Haven't seen him put any defensive pressure on either. Actually, do we have a forward who does apply defensive pressure other than Richo?
Bill James said:
Hughes is 21 already, he was top aged when drafted. He is the same age as Buddy Franklin.
Do you think he's improving? It doesn't look like it to me.
