I know its just one game, and against poor opposition, but imagine if he becomes even just a serviceable backman. That is going to make us alot better.
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His (and Moore's) ability to get off their man and fill the hole or crash the pack with Fevola made Will's job much easier too.
.... Keep the faith ToO!!
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Tigers of Old said:
Yep, persevere with him as a key back, tall quick and has to be a better option that Raines at CHB.
Tigers of Old said:
Agree mate, it's been a hard couple of years keeping faith in the Sarge. On Friday night I saw something in his game - the ability to mix it in the air, willingness to put his body on the line and skills to burn, that has been missing from our backline for years.
Hopefully he can stay fit and make CHB his own - we've been crying out for one for a decade.
At the ground I thought he played well, he goes in pretty hard and is very mobile for someone his size. I agree with everyone else that it would be good if he could be a key position back for us, sure he may get beaten every now and again, but let's give it a shot hey? Also, he could always pinch hit up forward, having talls with versatility can only help us.
Hopefully they let him build his own little stamping ground.
He's shown a few times in cameos that he has the capacity to play good footy.
Would be great if he could settle into some consistent footy and become a big hard rawboned defender for us.
He's shown a few times in cameos that he has the capacity to play good footy.
Would be great if he could settle into some consistent footy and become a big hard rawboned defender for us.
IanG said:
Hamill's not the one you have to worry about, how many times has Richo almost killed him.
Richo has not once protected JS's space when he is going (first) for the ball. Richo goes at him as if he is the opposition... imagine if the shoe was on the other foot, Richo would do his nut!
The big Yowie has done it to himself a couple of times.GR said:
He drifts back and across with the flight of the ball and near gets himself killed running into a wall of bodies and knees coming the other way.
A couple of years ago he did it against Dawkthorn, started back on Flanklin and set up our first couple of goals when Buddy tried some skiing before they got control of the pill. Yowie drifted forward, second qtr I think and got mangled. Big knee just under the ribs. He staggered of with a couple of helpers but managed to come back on at FF during the last qtr.
The big lug threw himself at a couple of marks but spilled them, recovered as quick as Browneye would have and fired out some handballs for goals.Stole the game off Dawkthorn for us. Probably would rate it as his best performance for us by far, better than his six against Brisbane.
Might be safer to keep him down back so he just needs to go one way to the pill.
GR said:
Don't agree. Another perfect example this week was Schulz running front on into the pack that Richo was a part of. I think Schulz has a lack of awareness in these situations. Haven't seen too many other players get hammered by Richo eg Hughes, Deledio. Doesn't matter now, it appears that he's being trialled for a backline position. Will be a huge bonus for the Tiges if it works out.
GR said:
What dribble. In regard to protecting space, who was the player playing deep? It was Schulz and therefore whether you like it or not, he's the one that should be protecting the space of the player in front of the pack. It's pretty hard to protect someone's space when you're in front of the competition.
How many times has Richo been smashed by friendly fire and nobody says a word. It was only last year he was performing heroics the week after his face was smashed in by friendly fire. How quickly we forget.
Some posters on this board seriously expect players at AFL level, at the pace it's played to be running around looking to see who might get hurt before they commit themselves to a pack mark situation.
GR you'd be the most reactive non event footballer on the park if you played like that. It's not realistic and you'd look like a pansy.
In any event i think our structure on Thursday night had a lot to do with exposing Carlton's weaknesses. It would be my guess that Richo played within the F50 arc to expose a height defficiency within Carlotn's defense
I'd imagine next week he'll play high half forward and still have scoreboard impact. Having said that, there's every possibility Shulz will be required in dfense because of all the large bodies the Roos have forward.
In relation to Howat it's pretty obvious why he was selected (ie running capacity). Had we gone in with only one of Schulz and Hughes, and taken an extra mid fielder, then my guess is that Morton would have got the nod. Fact is we needed extra legs to take advantage of Carlton's under done midfield.
Having said that, like Howat or not, after round 2 he won't be able to be named in the seniors unless we get a serious injury (fingers crossed we don't).
frickenel said:
Good post Fricknel. I'd ven hazard to say that the Tigers gave Howat the nod knowing that he'd only be available for two games to give him some experience and see hwo he travels. Unlike some I don't see that Howat can't be a good depth player in the future.
GoodOne said:
To be honest i'm not really a Howat fan tho i do wish him best of luck in a Richmond gurnsey. I just think for team balance he was the fit at the time. If i was to be critical of aspects of his game it would be his lack of strength when he attempts to tackle and his disposal efficiency for such an outside player. His efficiency isn't so bad overall, but it's not where it should be for a player that wins so much ball in space.
On the plus side is his running ability and i think that's what we needed on the night and we went for it.
It will be interesting to see how the selectors see it for the Roos game, because they are a hard at it team and i'm not sure how much value a player like Howat will be up against that lot.
The last time we played them it seemed like they had possession 70% of the time. It was one game last year i felt we were never ever in.
It's also interestig to look at how much run we have to come into the side once certain players gain match fitness. Cotchin, Conners, Edwards, Tiva, Polo, Coughlan, Meyer, Hyde, White - tho a few of the older heads there might be struggling for our best 22 now. You could also probably add Collins to that list - good skills and good run.
GoodOne said:
They just need to talk more. I don't have an issue with two guys wanting the footy.
If Richo's in the better position he needs to let Schulz know and vice versa.
FWIW I think both players have a lack of awareness when the other is nearby but that has plenty to do with lack of communication. If it's yours call 'Mine!'. Talk FFS.
frickenel said:
Certainly promising. Especially excited about the first three youngsters and Polo's a ball magnet. How wll Coughlan can come back remains to be seen. White looks like a tough nut too. One thing we can't under-estimate is the performance of Coburg last year. It's great experience for the Tiger youngsters.
