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Ivan Maric
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Definitely a highlight for me. Very competitive.
We actually did well in the clearances. Were just killed on the spread.
We actually did well in the clearances. Were just killed on the spread.
What a fantasic game against two very very good ruckman. Its no suprise we were up there in terms of clearances and easily won the hitouts.
This guy's aerobic capacity is huge for a big man, I guess being a personal trainer helps in that area!
This guy's aerobic capacity is huge for a big man, I guess being a personal trainer helps in that area!
Thought he was easily the biggest plus of the night. His strength is very evident. Will deliver 8 to 10 clear hit outs to advantage each week and gets around the ground well. Don't think he needs to be in as much hurry to dish it off as his field kicking looks pretty sound. Its great news to finally have a ruckman rather than a cardboard cut-out!
SCOOP said:
and he's fellow croat :hihi now if only the other one takes a leaf out of he's book
25 hitouts (same as Kruezer and Hampton combined) 5 clearances, 9 contested possessions, 18 disposals @ 72% efficiency...pretty good debut from Ivan.
Big Ivan had a good game, I agree with the theory and practise of recruiting him, but in a top side he'd be a second/ third ruck, a good depth ruck. And maybe thats what he'll end up being to TV or a future draft/ recruit. He's doing exactly what we expected and wanted, and he came cheap. Competing and going hard, taking a few grabs. big tick.
BUT the contrast with Kreuzer was stark. In general play Maric is like watching cattle dogs running around a Brahman bull. I beleive sides now need a gun ruck, a super ruck who are very good at traditional ruck duties, but can also 'play short' around the ground. Kreuzer, Cox, Otto and Jolly all fit this bill. Hawthorn are the only recent flag winning side who didn't. We aren't there yet, and Maric is good for now, but recruiters need to have an eye on getting another agile ruck for the future.
As an aside, Brisbane are a ruckman factory.
BUT the contrast with Kreuzer was stark. In general play Maric is like watching cattle dogs running around a Brahman bull. I beleive sides now need a gun ruck, a super ruck who are very good at traditional ruck duties, but can also 'play short' around the ground. Kreuzer, Cox, Otto and Jolly all fit this bill. Hawthorn are the only recent flag winning side who didn't. We aren't there yet, and Maric is good for now, but recruiters need to have an eye on getting another agile ruck for the future.
As an aside, Brisbane are a ruckman factory.
We must draft a couple this year. Maybe one with a mid to late draft pick and also one rookie.
Delist Graham.
Derickx and Browne can stay on as depth/backup to Maric.
Delist Graham.
Derickx and Browne can stay on as depth/backup to Maric.
tigersnake said:
He clearly out-rucked Kreuzer in my opinion. Sure Kreuzer was able to slip forward and get a goal or two, but I dont remember Maric actually going forward due to our pathetic inside 50 delivery.
Maric was good. In the ruck. Up forward he was pretty useless, as can probably be expected.
Kruezer was good too. Some exceptional work around the ground. If we could pick any player in the league to come to Richmond he would be right up there IMO.
Kruezer was good too. Some exceptional work around the ground. If we could pick any player in the league to come to Richmond he would be right up there IMO.
Kreuzer did more than just slip fwd and get a goal or two, he was one of their better midfielders, or an extra RR. Tremendous player. To me it again throws up an interesting question, age old question. Obviously everyone wants a gun ruck in the Kreuzer/ Cox mold, but not everyone has got one or can have one. So do you then go for someone good around the ground but not a monster who is not great in the ruck? Or vice versa? Its an old debate, going back to when Jeans said rucks weren't essential and won a flag with an undersized, second string ruck, (was it Abbott?). Coincidently years later Hawthorn did it again recently with Renouf, who isn't that good at anything, just OK on a good day. Brisbane the polar opposite, veiwing big buffetting rucks, usually 2, as essential to finals success.
Not something we have to worry much about this year, which as I said, getting Ivan looks like a good move.
Not something we have to worry much about this year, which as I said, getting Ivan looks like a good move.
tigersnake said:
In that case, Maric takes the ruck duel and then drops back into defence (the Benny Gale role) to help out Post etc with the big guys. We then play an extra midfielder across the ground. Kruezer might get plenty of it but I'm not convinced on his disposal. If we play an extra mid with slick skills, we win.
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