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General Trade Discussion 2022

Reckon Bedford is a good get for GWS, 44 is a steal.

I've been a fan this year. Will play a lot of footy, reckon he's better than Bobby Hill.
 
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they wouldn't have used that pick anyway

Yeah was hoping we'd get that pick, but sounded like if Soldo goes we get their future 3rd. Maybe we can then trade our own 3rd into this years draft to get a late pick. Maybe Pick 45 from GC? It would end up around 39.
 
I would have segmented it 1-5, 6-15, 16-30, 31-50,

Pick 13 has a pretty good history, pick 7 also has some excellent returns. Most tall forwards fall into the top 15, interestingly many of these like Riewoldt, Curnow, McKay & Fogarty have slipped into double figures. Marshall was a pick 16 so he just misses the cut but he was also pretty raw as a junior.

I think the 16-30 range can be a goldmine for inside mids & in the rare case of Bolton, fully fledged dual position talents. You can also get champion key backs, Rance, Sam Taylor & Harry Taylor a few off the top of my head, Ridley & De Koning emerging talents.
Yeah. Stats-wise there isn't a lot of difference in strike rate between 6 and 20.

also interesting is the small difference between a pick in the 20s, and a pick between 31 and 50.

Pick 6-10: 28 per cent

Pick 11-20: 27 per cent

Pick 21-30: 13 per cent

Pick 31-50: 15 per cent
 
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Yeah. Stats-wise there isn't a lot of difference in strike rate between 6 and 20.

also interesting is the small difference between a pick in the 20s, and a pick between 31 and 50.

Pick 6-10: 28 per cent

Pick 11-20: 27 per cent

Pick 21-30: 13 per cent

Pick 31-50: 15 per cent
So the question you have to ask yourself is, with all of our 3 first round picks being in the 11-20 tier @ 27%, and another in the 15% tier, how do you rate those %'s v the % of Hopper and Taranto .....all whilst taking into consideration whether you're in the Premiership window or not ?
 
You have no evidence either to suggest he didn’t use that information.
That's an illogical argument to make. That there is a lack of evidence for something not happening does not equate to evidence of something happening.
 
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So the question you have to ask yourself is, with all of our 3 first round picks being in the 11-20 tier @ 27%, and another in the 15% tier, how do you rate those %'s v the % of Hopper and Taranto .....all whilst taking into consideration whether you're in the Premiership window or not ?
12 and 19 might both be superstars, or they might both be duds. Stats say you've got a 2 out of 3 chance of drafting one 200 gamer with both picks. Obviously the odds of 150 gamer is better, probs 100% of getting one with both picks.

Hopper 40% chance of a 200 gamer with both picks (and probs 60-70% 150 gamer but I'm guessing), plus an aggressive premiership ruckman.

Its pretty obvious why GWS reckon we pulled up short with Hopper for F1 and 30.

Both deals similar, both unders IMO.
 
That's an illogical argument to make. That there is a lack of evidence for something not happening does not equate to evidence of something happening.
And vice versa.

To think that someone with that level of intel is not going to use it in their new role as the CEO of a club is naïve in the extreme.
 
Been reading some of the crap on here re trades. I laugh when our supporters (rightly so) knock the hell out of comments from Lloyd and Cornes et al but then get stuck into our clubs strategy and some of our players. Please give the Experts and Professionals who get payed at Richmond some credit for doing their research and jobs. Truth is they surely know better than the mud rakers and continual nay sayers here on PRE. Just like to finish by saying I respect everybody has a right to an opinion by Sheesh - on the balance of whats been said here???
 
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12 and 19 might both be superstars, or they might both be duds. Stats say you've got a 2 out of 3 chance of drafting one 200 gamer with both picks. Obviously the odds of 150 gamer is better, probs 100% of getting one with both picks.

Hopper 40% chance of a 200 gamer with both picks (and probs 60-70% 150 gamer but I'm guessing), plus an aggressive premiership ruckman.

Its pretty obvious why GWS reckon we pulled up short with Hopper for F1 and 30.

Both deals similar, both unders IMO.
So if they're: a) both unders based on the %'s and b) you also think that Richmond are in a Premiership window - which just about every flag waving PRE'ender seems to think - then those people calling out these deals as being ridiculous are not looking at the probability equation and also contradicting their own outlook on where Richmond is at.
 
So if they're: a) both unders based on the %'s and b) you also think that Richmond are in a Premiership window - which just about every flag waving PRE'ender seems to think - then those people calling out these deals as being ridiculous are not looking at the probability equation and also contradicting their own outlook on where Richmond is at.
Yes.

Its unders if we aren't in the window, big unders if we are. People overvalue draft picks in-general, I understand why, its the money or the box situation.
 
Yes.

Its unders if we aren't in the window, big unders if we are. People overvalue draft picks in-general, I understand why, its the money or the box situation.
Correct. So you can clearly see what the club's strategy is both from a valuation perspective and a "window" perspective. It makes sense.
 
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Round 2 and 3, and evern 4 used to mean somthing. Now they are just a means of collecting points for academy picks.
 
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And vice versa.

To think that someone with that level of intel is not going to use it in their new role as the CEO of a club is naïve in the extreme.
I know it's usually a waste of time arguing with a conspiracy theorist, but I'm continually amazed how someone can form an opinion with no evidence whatsoever and then call others out for not believing the same thing.
 
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