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This is what happens when you are *smile* for so long.

Sooner or later something will give.

This is a direct result of the decisions made by the football department over so many years.

Poor recruiting, poor list management and poor coaching has tipped everyone over the edge. There's so much one can take, and some of the players have obviously had a gutfull.

The 5 year contract given to Wallace was a mistake and it was an even bigger mistake to hold onto him for that duration when it was obvious that he was taking us nowhere fast.

You could argue that the players who instigated this desperately want success and took matters in their own hands because they have little confidence in the club making the right decision. You could also argue it wasn't their call to make.
 
Harry said:
There's so much one can take, and some of the players have obviously had a gutfull.

Maybe so Harry. But how about the pissants do something about it where it actually matters; on the *smile* ground!!!!

That'd make a nice change.
 
Ridley said:
What makes any of them think they have the kudos to do something like this?? They are the greatest bunch of softo, peahearted pretenders and underachievers that have ever pulled boots on. They have achieved SWEET FA as players at the RFC. They all take home massive pay cheques, compared to the average person, and give *smile* all in return.

No doubt Wallace has performed extremely poorly in his 5 years as coach. He has to go and will at some stage this year. But that will be taken care of through the proper process. He has performed no more poorly than most of the players on the list. Where do they get the hide to try and pull this sort of *smile*. They should pull their *smile*ing pathetic heads in and concentrate on winning a game of footy every once in a while; god forbid maybe getting into the finals.

Just *smile*ing unbelievable.

We don;t often agree :hihi, but geez we are as one on this. It's primary school stuff....................
 
Ridley said:
Maybe so Harry. But how about the p!ssants do something about it where it actually matters; on the *smile*ing ground!!!!

That'd make a nice change.

True, but what if you're a good player wanting success and you give your all every week to only be surrounded by dud teamates, a dud coach, a pathetic game plan and a club too deluded or too scared to act.

Your only options would be to either ask for a trade or to request/demand change.
 
pharace said:
We don;t often agree :hihi, but geez we are as one on this. It's primary school stuff....................

I knew you'd see the light one day....................... :hihi
 
Ridley said:
Maybe so Harry. But how about the p!ssants do something about it where it actually matters; on the *smile*ing ground!!!!

That'd make a nice change.


How can they riddles, you said they were all crap anyway.
 
Lets just hope that players such as Deledio, Cotchin, Collins, Foley etc dont become disenchanted and start asking to be traded then we will really be in the sh!t all because we werent prepared to get rid of Terry
 
jb03 said:
How can they riddles, you said they were all crap anyway.

More's the point; where the *smile* do they get off trying to dictate anything to anyone considering how crap they're performances are?
 
btoz_01 said:
Lets just hope that players such as Deledio, Cotchin, Collins, Foley etc dont become disenchanted and start asking to be traded then we will really be in the sh!t all because we werent prepared to get rid of Terry

They know he's going and they'll have a new coach next year. It's just as important to rid the list of the lemons surrounding these players.
 
btoz_01 said:
Lets just hope that players such as Deledio, Cotchin, Collins, Foley etc dont become disenchanted and start asking to be traded then we will really be in the sh!t all because we werent prepared to get rid of Terry

Or worse, what if one of young stars is one of the instigators? I'm not saying that's the case, but if they are, we'd have to trade them.
 
With everyone's stress level hitting factor 10, I must say that its lucky PRE wasnt around when Hafey got the chop, or when the Pitura saga played itself out, or any other crisis we had previously found ourselves in.

Lets take things a bit easier and we'll get through this one.
 
Chiang Mai Tiger said:
With everyone's stress level hitting factor 10, I must say that its lucky PRE wasnt around when Hafey got the chop, or when the Pitura saga played itself out, or any other crisis we had previously found ourselves in.

Lets take things a bit easier and we'll get through this one.

I reckon we will too CMT.

It'll be a heck of a lot worse if Wallet wasn't already a cooked goose before this incident.
 
Its funny - after the weekends effort, I thought I might suggest giving Wallace a 1year extension - expecting the vitriol!

Come Tuesday morning - beaten to the punch ....

Made sense in the sense of avoiding such a catastrophe - - - - still, it doesn't explain the previous 7 rounds ~~
 
Just watched the replay of the footy show and i am now at work. I work nights so there are quite a few points i want to mention.

I would like some comments on these points i will list down below. These views are mine and not of puntroadend.

* who was the leak? My opinion is either 2 players.........Kane or Nathan.

* kane johnson's role. Was he pissed off at being asked to step down as captain last year and this led to the back stabbing of the coach and getting Newman to do the dirty work?

* joel's/richo's role. just showed that either of these 2 should have been made captain this year. Being possibly there last years it would have been fitting. Even though i, and others , at times have been critical of both of the years, they showed true leadership skills. It wasnt Kane's , Newman's, King's , Simmond's or any of the other "rebel's" role to front Terry on his own initially. All parties , along with the President , Craig and Newman himself.

* The stupidity of Jake to get embroided in all this. Just may have cost him his career at season's end. Upset at not getting a regular game? In/out of the side? Well it takes more than grunt to play this modern game.

* Morton, for a young player of 30 odd games spoke well. He seemed visibly upset at what developed. These things should be kept in house. All players get a spray, if they all "sooked" , well there wouldnt be any coaches coaching this game. Gee how would Barassi, Blight and others go ?

* Prospective coaches looking from outside at these going ons. Would this make them not interested in coaching this club? I think this is what may have swayed Malthouse and Thompson looking at our club. I firmly believe that a seasoned coach like a Malthouse, Matthews type would be strong enough to handle coaching this club and all that comes with it. A young coach could find it difficult in this role. The only way he could succeed was if he had strong support staff, say a Sheedy mentoring and was of strong character himself who wouldnt tolerate what has been going on, not only this season but for the past 27 years.

* Garry's/Craig's leadership and strength. I have to say i was rapt the way these two have handled the situation , have conducted themselves over the course of the year and this week's trying week. This could be only the begginning though. To hold firm and not buckle is a true test of strength, unity and character. Gee you wish all our players had this fortitude.

* Wallace. Look, love or hate him, you would have to feel for him and his family. What they have had to go through, and still possibly go through, no one shoul have to endure this type of scrutiny. Not his family thats all i am saying. This is what you get coaching the RICHMOND FOOTBALL CLUB. It has to stop though.

* Should Newman step down? I think not now but consideration may have to be given come seasons end. What he did showed immaturaty. The way he was swayed to be the fall by Kane to me lack true leadership. It showed he was naive even though he may have had reason to do so. He may not only have had Kane in his ear, but as it has been shown there were others involved that may have made it hard for him , being the captain, not to do anything. The way he went about it was wrong in my eyes. Kane should be sacked at season's end AND not play a game at all.

* How will the players respond this week? The one's that wanted him gone and the one's that didnt want a part in this. Was there more players involved in all this? Will they ALL respond collectively or will it be a "Geelong" like performance , ala *smile* Gate"? There are players playing for their careers and any prospective coach would be keeping a close eye on how they conduct themselves over the course of the remainder year. But Richmond's history over the last 27 years is one of shelfishness.

* How many of the " rebels" were involved.? I was trying to look at the footage of the players coming out of the meeting, but i didnt get them all. I ma not sure if it has been mentioned how many were there? The names i will note down are newman, kane, bowden, richo, simmonds, king, jackson, deleido. Who were the others? Most of these players will not play for Richmond next year.

* What were the player's grievances? I find it hard that it was 'Morton's spray". Obviously it was the catalyst that was the final straw. We believe now it was a number of things such as :\

- favourtism of players

- players coming in one week and getting dropped the next

- the game plan. That it keeps changing time and time again, weekly , within a game.

- discipline

- not following team rules. Was this one?

Can anyone help here with confirmation and or other grievances. Thanks

* What would you do if you were the coach now in this situation? It makes it hard to coach i would think knowing that there are players within the group who wanted you gone. Would you play the players who you knew wanted you gone, not the ones that got involved in talks (leadership group here i am talking about)?. Would you step down? What if the result this Saturday night is a nightmare? Would you say enough is enough here knowing you have lost a percentage of your players?

* Captain/Coach situation. In all situations you would think that your captain is someone you could trust and go to, not someone conspiring to have you removed. How hard would this working relationship be now?

* Do you think truly that this situation has been resolved? I dont and this is just my opinion.

* I am going this Saturday night to show my support for all concerned. I would like to put this week behind , hope the players do and see a fighting spirit by all the players. Play for the jumper if not for the coach and for your pride. Lets get as many as we can down there at the G. Which Richmond will show up? We will now come Saturday night at the start of the bounce. There is one thing i have learnt , that very early on, and normally i am spot on, i know if we have come to play.


I would appreciate some views. Thanks all.


George
 
waiting said:
* Wallace. Look, love or hate him, you would have to feel for him and his family. What they have had to go through, and still possibly go through, no one shoul have to endure this type of scrutiny. Not his family thats all i am saying. This is what you get coaching the RICHMOND FOOTBALL CLUB. It has to stop though.

I don't feel for Terry Wallace at all, George.

You will find Terry is the cause of most of this mess, him and his mates.

He wants to look after himself and only himself, has no thoughts about our club.

Hope he suffers and get's what he deserves.
 
Personally not bothered at what I saw on show. Largely rehashed version of Caroline Wilson's article.

Hutchy doing his best to look important and try to explain why he went off half-cocked on Tuesday.

The whole circumstances of the meeting were unusual and when a club is not getting results, and that club is Richmond there is always a certain hysteria within and especially outside the club.

I'm not fussed that the players and coach had a blowup and now prepared to look forward.

The part that disappoints and flabbergasts me the most is that private team meetings are being leaked to the media (assuming all of what was reported was indeed factual), and the club is held up for public ridicule yet again.
 
It pisses me off that Crutchy comes out of this with even a sceric of credibility.

The fact that he ran a headline in a major tabloid that was completely false has been utterly forgotten.
 
what I found interesting is that there is no way such a feature would have been run on the Melbourne, Kangaroos, or Collingwood Football clubs. On that basis this show is a disgrace, and Hutchy is justa gutter rat with absolutely no ethics, he is the man after all who wrongly accused kosi as a rapist on the channel 7 news
 
smasha said:
Heartbroken.


Our *smile*ing club is a shambles.


King,I stood up for this bloke and he does that.


GET THE *smile* OUT JOHNSON,KING,SIMMO.

NEWMAN STAND DOWN AND LET COUSINS CAPTAIN.

Only just watched it and this is my overwhelming opinion. Maybe not Cousins, though. Maybe Bowden to see the year out. I'd say Richo except for injury. Simmonds has got to be the luckiest player on the list to have a game. Let's hope the docs sort out Gus's hammy quickly and we can boot this traitor down to Coburg where he belongs.
 
Ridley said:
As much as I have been an advocate of one of the younger coaches (Hardwicke etc) getting the gig as the next coach, these recent events lead me to believe that we need a hard, tough, no *smile* experienced coach to cull this softo loser playing list and pull those that stay into line. Malthouse or Matthews need to be the targets. They won't put up with the type of *smile* Newman, Johnson and Simmonds have tried to pull.

Could you imagine Mick's reaction? He's the one for me now. Mind you, I don't think I'd complain if March extended Wallace's contract by a year just to remind the players who runs the club.