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Elimination Final Game Day Thread v Lions
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Like everyone else you have absolutely no idea that he kicked that goal. None what so ever.
To rely on that as an excuse for losing is a bit too cheer squad for me given the copious amounts of errors we made as a team again, but anyways each to their own.
You certainly have got a point. Three of them including Nank and could not manage it. Got in each others' way and let slacko Joey get the easiest of goals to win the game. No-one stays down in case of a crumb to protect the ball drop or goal-line which is another football 101 rule, or used to be.
The idea that he kicked the goal comes from the goal umpire.
The rules state that it takes evidence to overrule the goal umpire's decision. That evidence is sorely lacking.
Sure won't make us any quicker though. Not sure we can afford both - in both senses of the word.
Just got in after the game, very disappointed with the last 5 mins once again.
Some interesting comments here, some on the money imo and some based on pure emotion. I don't agree Dimma was out really coached tonite. Someone's gotta lose and tonite it was us....it was the WAY we lost it that probably gave rise to a lot of the disappointment, anger etc and fair enough. It's been a reflection of our season this year. Honesstly BOTH sides were sh!te tnite, the fumbling was next level. Soclearly we are better than what we put out this year - the key will be to refocus and put it all together next year.
For numerous reasons, I don't believe the Paddle Pops will progress after next week; we shall see.
Maybe I'm wrong, but what I felt about the game during the week was pretty much based on some of the rhetoric coming out of Punt Rd from key individuals. The language consistently came across to me this way : "given the year we've had, we're going to have a huge crack in the EF but more importantly, regardless of the game's outcome , we are planning for the next few years with the crop of players coming through and the planning we have done/are doing."
While it does'nt excuse what we saw tonite, I have no doubt in my mind that they are planning for sustained success over the medium to long term. The Club knows that NOT dropping to the lower rungs of the ladder is paramount in sustaining our resurgence, membership, success, finances etc. Regardless of what has been said, we ARE in a transitionary phase make no mistake, and the brains trust is planning accordingly. Drafting real smart right now will keep us where we need to be. We have the space in the cap and the money....and are a destination club so lets see what happens. Others have done/are doing it - why can't we?
The thing I took out of tonite was that despite center hitout dominance, we could'nt dominate clearances. If we could have - our fwd line would have been hard to stop. We need another decent inside mid and pronto, if not to dictate clearance (esp on smaller grounds) then to at least break even. Whether thats Taranto, Hopper etc we shall see. Meatball's hammies are suspect and we cant simply rely on him alone. Shorty is not a mid, Cotchin imo despite trying hard is seeing the game pass him (much like Titch) .
We are NOT going to win our 14th Flag without a tight defence - Balta has the physical prowess but has zero football nous. We saw what happened with a minute to go. Gibbo is learning the caper and will get better I feel despite tonite's showing. Tazz is going to slow down. Flossy and Broady are OK but are going to need help - just too many easy goals leaked this year. Another key defender who can READ it and slot into our system is needed - easier said than done.
So while tonite was'nt and finished in a way that I'd rather forget, I've calmed down sufficiently to break it down and think about where we are going and how our list/side looks for next year and I'm confident we''ll be better for it.
So, I'll put my lace up jumper and scarf away for another 6 months and rue what might have been. I'm not on a total downer either, in fact, I'm quite positive we're going to be hanging around the pointy end of coming seasons, more than most people think.
I hope I'm right.
The ARC can over rule the umpire. You know that. And you also know that they have been ruling without clear evidence all year long. So, when you are only 5m out…5m out !…. you shouldn’t even be bringing that possibility into the equation.
Not to mention the litany of other things we brought into the equation for which their is NO disputing.
Hanging your hat on a contentious goal decision after a cavalcade of errors is pretty flimsy I reckon.
Well what a typically shattering yet fitting way to end what was an eminently frustrating season. *smile* we were hard to watch at times this year. WTF has been going on? Did we have a spy at Collingwood training early in the pre season when they were practicing how to play at the end of tight games and close them out? Did that person then go back to the club and say:
"We all know Collingwood will be *smile* this year so let's just do the opposite of what they are doing!!!"
Fair dinkum; 6 games decided by less than a goal and we didn't win *smile* one of them!!! The best we could do was a farcical draw against Freo. We invented new ways to blow games. Balta forgetting about the countdown clock against Freo. Cumbo playing on in same game and siren blows. Aarts plays on against North instead of taking his set shot. George finds new ways to miss goals against GC. We even went back to some of the tried and true methods; GC kicked a goal after the siren to beat us virtually 10 years to the day from the Harmichael game. We now have the distinction of being the only team to be beaten by the Suns by a kick after the siren; twice!! We really go the whole hog when we *smile* up.
That game tonight was pretty pathetic from our players and coaches. Just error after error after error. An absolute litany of *smile* ups. The last Brisbane goal was the epitome of how poorly we have defended this year. 3 talls in the square but they still couldn't kill the ball to prevent Joe *smile* Daniher kicking the winning goal.
Questions must be asked of the coach. How can he not rectify this situation where we continually win close games?? It's not like he doesn't have any video to review. It happens time and again yet we still cant fix it. Why? What are we doing wrong?
Of those 6 games; even if we split them and go 3-3 instead of 0-1-5 we finish top 4 and get an MCG final with a double chance. We *smile* blew it this year. We could have really caused some havoc with a top 4 finish. Instead we whimper out with a loss at the Gabba against an undermanned and quite frankly very ordinary Brisbane side.
What an absolute wasted *smile* show of a year. In hope it burns and drives our middle to young group of players in years to come. To never be in the position of continually losing close games again. I hope our coaches develop strategies for the players in how they play in these situations. I hope we recruit some bona fide ball winning mids so we don't get owned by the likes of Lachie Neale again. A lot of work to do.
A mega rant but *smile* hell I am p!ssed off.
"We all know Collingwood will be *smile* this year so let's just do the opposite of what they are doing!!!"
Fair dinkum; 6 games decided by less than a goal and we didn't win *smile* one of them!!! The best we could do was a farcical draw against Freo. We invented new ways to blow games. Balta forgetting about the countdown clock against Freo. Cumbo playing on in same game and siren blows. Aarts plays on against North instead of taking his set shot. George finds new ways to miss goals against GC. We even went back to some of the tried and true methods; GC kicked a goal after the siren to beat us virtually 10 years to the day from the Harmichael game. We now have the distinction of being the only team to be beaten by the Suns by a kick after the siren; twice!! We really go the whole hog when we *smile* up.
That game tonight was pretty pathetic from our players and coaches. Just error after error after error. An absolute litany of *smile* ups. The last Brisbane goal was the epitome of how poorly we have defended this year. 3 talls in the square but they still couldn't kill the ball to prevent Joe *smile* Daniher kicking the winning goal.
Questions must be asked of the coach. How can he not rectify this situation where we continually win close games?? It's not like he doesn't have any video to review. It happens time and again yet we still cant fix it. Why? What are we doing wrong?
Of those 6 games; even if we split them and go 3-3 instead of 0-1-5 we finish top 4 and get an MCG final with a double chance. We *smile* blew it this year. We could have really caused some havoc with a top 4 finish. Instead we whimper out with a loss at the Gabba against an undermanned and quite frankly very ordinary Brisbane side.
What an absolute wasted *smile* show of a year. In hope it burns and drives our middle to young group of players in years to come. To never be in the position of continually losing close games again. I hope our coaches develop strategies for the players in how they play in these situations. I hope we recruit some bona fide ball winning mids so we don't get owned by the likes of Lachie Neale again. A lot of work to do.
A mega rant but *smile* hell I am p!ssed off.
Agreed Bro as they say on Big Footy, I'm Emotionally Checking OutI think I'm just about over footy.
FMD, yes of course they arc can overrule the goal umpire, but surely us punters should know what they're basing it off??
And if it was based on what we saw on TV then there is nothing conclusive about it. Therefore it should have been awarded a goal and we be 2 goals ahead.
Our putrid efforts in the last 3 minutes of the game may not have any consequence whatsoever, but we conceded 1 goal.
That would have meant nothing if the arc's decision gone the other way, as based on any evidence available it should have.
A few years ago I felt this about cricket & I've barely gone near it since. I dunno maybe it's because I'm older but I'm genuinely starting to stop giving a *smile* about it. I consider myself as rusted on as most. They'll probably get my dollar for a while still but the passion is waining..
Yes the ARC is *smile* but it should never have come down to that in the first place.
I Checked out of Cricket a few years ago too, mate nothing is the same they've #$%&# everything.
Could'nt agree more...the boys and I noticed the same thing during the game.
The truth is we DO NOT get umpired the same way everybody else does.
EVER.
The entirety of your post was good Rat but the issue with this part is that we lost EVERY close game we played in this year and it cost us a real shot. Much of that is on the coach. It is an obvious issue and he wasn't able to fix it this year. Hopefully he can next year.
Well both teams made heaps of errors - we actually kicked 2 less points, but that was their winning margin.
The number and nature of the horrendous errors we make, and the way we give up healthy leads, or a goal back immediately upon scoring one, has been my bugbear for a long time. It's driven me spare and I have criticised Dimma for the lack of skills training and game-day know-how, which has led some posters to fire back at me. However, we are talking about one critical decision here to over-rule the Lynch goal, in spite of the umpire's call. So have you seen irrefutable evidence that he got it wrong?
However, that's a separate issue to what happened with this goal review here. We are talking about one critical decision here to over-rule the Lynch goal, in spite of the umpire's call. So have you seen irrefutable evidence that he got it wrong?
In terms of the game's result; the scoreboard does not award scores based on player errors, but on what goes between the sticks.
