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Dustin Martin

tigertime2 said:
Would anyone be that upset if Dusty leaves and we got 2 1st rounders?
how would this be possible? North would have to trade which means we'd have to match the offer which it sounds like we can't/won't.
 
rocsta75 said:
Just a silly question but why is after and cant be before? Does anybody have the actual rule as the current Brownlow and long term huge contract can easily justify before? Be interesting to see if can only be after.
Compensation:

A club that has a net loss of players transferring to/from other clubs as free agents in one transfer period is entitled to compensation via National Draft picks allocated by the AFL.

The compensation formula produces a points rating for players based on:

1. The new contract of the free agent;
2. The age of the free agent.

Draft picks are allocated to clubs based on the net total points for free agents lost and gained during the transfer period.

Draft picks will be allocated to one of five places:

• 1st round
• end of 1st round
• 2nd round
• end of 2nd round
• 3rd round

In applying the formula, an expert committee reviews the formula outcomes. The committee has the power to recommend alternative outcomes to GM – Football Operations where the formula produces a materially anomalous result.
 
Harry said:
If we want Norths pick number 1 or 2 we have to match and theyll have to do a deal. However because it's a money issue Dusty will decide to stay if we match. If we don't match we'll get say pick 15 or so.
thats how I understand the situation
 
bowden4president said:
Compensation:

A club that has a net loss of players transferring to/from other clubs as free agents in one transfer period is entitled to compensation via National Draft picks allocated by the AFL.

The compensation formula produces a points rating for players based on:

1. The new contract of the free agent;
2. The age of the free agent.

Draft picks are allocated to clubs based on the net total points for free agents lost and gained during the transfer period.

Draft picks will be allocated to one of five places:

• 1st round
• end of 1st round
• 2nd round
• end of 2nd round
• 3rd round

In applying the formula, an expert committee reviews the formula outcomes. The committee has the power to recommend alternative outcomes to GM – Football Operations where the formula produces a materially anomalous result.
I like the statement "..where the formula produces a materially anomalous result."

So in other words if the AFL feels like it they can do whatever they want.

We'll be lucky to get a 1st rounder at all..
 
bowden4president said:
Compensation:

A club that has a net loss of players transferring to/from other clubs as free agents in one transfer period is entitled to compensation via National Draft picks allocated by the AFL.

The compensation formula produces a points rating for players based on:

1. The new contract of the free agent;
2. The age of the free agent.

Draft picks are allocated to clubs based on the net total points for free agents lost and gained during the transfer period.

Draft picks will be allocated to one of five places:

• 1st round
• end of 1st round
• 2nd round
• end of 2nd round
• 3rd round

In applying the formula, an expert committee reviews the formula outcomes. The committee has the power to recommend alternative outcomes to GM – Football Operations where the formula produces a materially anomalous result.
We can only hope the AFL have some compassion.........not holding my breath
 
I now feel that he is going. I just wish he was listening to a financial advisor other than his Dad and his Manager, who both have vested interests. It would be relatively easy to show him the extra cash he could earn by staying a one club player. I always remember Geoff Raines leaving and thinking that it was going to hurt him financially. Dusty's main asset when he retires could be that he was a RFC champion with x brownlows and x premierships. That folks is worth a LOT of money....
 
Round 23... is the answer to who long before we are "OK" with Dusty leaving. The trade, compensation and recruiting is now the core of the discussions and not keeping him at all costs.

Just be strange to a. Let a browlnlow medalist leave your list. b. let by far one of the most dynamic, game changers walk out of Punt Road.

The BIGGEST disappointment (for mine), acknowledging he isn't much of a a public speaker, is that Dusty has NEVER said my desire is to stay with Richmond but will asses my options at the end of the year.
 
Reckon hes gone.

Not convinced its to North either.

Hawks didnt move Lewis and Mitchell on for no reason, they would have a war chest ready to splash some cash.

Very hard to do, but Buddy to the Swans showed that keeping a secret in the AFL world is possible.

Add to that they havent been linked to any players in the up-coming off season, very unusual for them.
 
Tigers of Old said:
Get in Josh Kelly's ear. 4 years Dusty's junior and probably won't command as much coin.
On the front foot Tigers.

Hopefully we have been all along just in case
 
i get the feeling the tide of public opinion is starting to turn on this situation

most of my tiger mates are all saying that if he wants to bleed the club dry and get every single dollar out of us, stuffing our chances of building a premiership list, and probably forcing a few of his mates out the door, then good riddance.

the culture of a successful football team doesnt allow for that type of attitude, unless your sydney, and we all know why they can do it.

happy for the club to do whats best for the club long term, and if that means we lose dusty, then so be it. I put absolutely no blame on the club in this situation
 
A seven year contract on massive money could bite us in the arse if things go wrong. On the other hand, with Martin our flag window is open for the next five years. Without him, it's probably closed for a decade. No stars will come to a Martin-less Richmond unless paid overs, which would make us refusing to do the same for the best player in the game look ridiculous.

This is a game of poker. Carr keeps raising the pot in a bid to get us to fold. We need Dusty to agree to a split pot, which I think he will.
 
Tigers brought the kid and now tbey made if the man he is .if his farking daddy doesnt see that they can go forth both of them and dont come back..
 
1.2 million for 7 seasons is very close to Buddy & on par with Gaz. Dusty & Merkin need to pull their heads out of their arse.
 
“His kicking is elite, as we know.” John Longmire before the Rich v Syd 2017 game.

You don't find much written about Martin's brilliant disposal so it was good to find Longmire setting the record straight.
 
This years B & F winner may not be in attendance ?

I think it's officially a media circus now, all over twitter with the same stuff.

Must say I thought early in the year he had made up his mind either way, now my guess is his genuinely waying it up, our season has probably surprised and the offers have probably surprised. Time will tell.