David Astbury, Thank You

[Carter]

I was watching the game were David got out marked at nearly every 1 on 1 he had, were he was lost in between kicks and was lead to almost every contest.
A few loose ball gets and couple of good spoils is not a great game. The reason he did so well is because carlton couldn't kick straight or he would have had 4 or 5 kicked on him.
Don't hate Dave, happy for him, just not in the best back 6. I would have batch, rance, grimes ahead of him.

I respect the right of every man to an opinion, but reading this was like drinking from a bucket of diarrhea.

 

[GoodOne]

but reading this was like drinking from a bucket of diarrhea.

How do you know?

 

[Carter]

Shooter McGavin : I eat pieces of *smile* like you for breakfast.
Happy Gilmore : You eat *smile* for breakfast?
Shooter McGavin : [pauses] No!

 

[Dyer'ere]

:hihi

I'm pretty sure Waite kicked his only goal on Grimey. A contested(?) mark at about thirty out.

It's no accident than when we form up on the rebound Ass-burgers is at the back of the formation. He can be relied on to use the ball forward. By hand or foot he will hold the ball and aim it to the space the receiver should be running to. (Hence my earlier Deledio comparison.) He can control the play and set it up well.

 

[jamo]

You're surely kidding? He was great. 2nd half Carlton were waltzing down the ground with no pressure at all. Astbury did very well to limit Waite's opportunities under those circumstances. Astbury first player picked for the backline next week.

No I am seriously not kidding, Waite outmarked him and out lead him all night, Waite didn't kick well, that made Astbury look better than he was, you can choose not to beleive it, but put simply, thats how I saw it.
Astbury tried hard, but is too slow, and especially under pressure. He looks like a deer in headlights.
He did a few nice things, like mark that silly kick from Garlett, but again, if he kicked properly, that good thing turns into something else.
Its a game of chance sometimes, Astbury /the entire team was saved from a rnd 1 loss once again, through Carltons poor kicking.
The Richmond team dropped there bundle and let Carlton run all over them for 25 min in the last qtr, it was a bloody disgrace.

happy i drove home with the win, but honestly astbury was not as good as you all make out he was, if you look at what he was actually there to do, and that is stop waite, or however getting shots on goal.

 

[jamo]

I respect the right of every man to an opinion, but reading this was like drinking from a bucket of diarrhea.

Happy for you to tell me why I am wrong, sorry you have issues drinking liquid poop. I suppose no different to drinking beer brewed by CUB.

 

[St Kevin]

Like him. A tad slow of foot but has a good footy brain, and like all young players needs continuity. Certainly wasn't disgraced against Carlton, particularly given the frequency of I50s in the second half.

Hopefully he steps up in Rance's absence. He has some big matchups looming.

 

[tigergollywog]

Like him. A tad slow of foot but has a good footy brain, and like all young players needs continuity. Certainly wasn't disgraced against Carlton, particularly given the frequency of I50s in the second half.

Hopefully he steps up in Rance's absence. He has some big matchups looming.

welcome St.Kev. we can always use more men of faith, 'specially canonised ones.

 

[Carter]

Happy for you to tell me why I am wrong, sorry you have issues drinking liquid poop. I suppose no different to drinking beer brewed by CUB.

Nothing personal Jamo, just thought it was clear Astbury played a monster game for this club on Thursday night.

Monster in the sense that he was captain of the backline. Not Chaplin. Astbury took the world on his shoulders and won. Immense for his confidence and for his development.

 

[DeathNinthandTaxes]

No I am seriously not kidding, Waite outmarked him and out lead him all night, Waite didn't kick well, that made Astbury look better than he was, you can choose not to beleive it, but put simply, thats how I saw it.
Astbury tried hard, but is too slow, and especially under pressure. He looks like a deer in headlights.
He did a few nice things, like mark that silly kick from Garlett, but again, if he kicked properly, that good thing turns into something else.
Its a game of chance sometimes, Astbury /the entire team was saved from a rnd 1 loss once again, through Carltons poor kicking.
The Richmond team dropped there bundle and let Carlton run all over them for 25 min in the last qtr, it was a bloody disgrace.

happy i drove home with the win, but honestly astbury was not as good as you all make out he was, if you look at what he was actually there to do, and that is stop waite, or however getting shots on goal.

Can't agree with any of this Jamo, i think you've got the astbury affliction that a number of 'supporters' have. I even had an email from a supposed tigers supporter specifically to tell me how *smile* astbury was?? From my POV he works well under pressure and doesn't panic with ball, how can opinions differ so much? No preconceived ideas from me perhaps...
The we lost because Carlton kicked bad argument doesn't was with me either, we both kicked the same amount of points, some of theirs look completely stupid but they also kicked a couple out of their arse too.
Did Hawthorn drop their bundle on the weekend too? or do games go in swings and roundabouts much more often these days? 6 goals is not a match winning lead anymore, especially in the early rounds when match fitness hasn't peaked (or even in the later rounds when conditioning is being stretched for the longer finals season).
Take the blinkers off, let some of that 30 years of pain subside, and try to enjoy the ride. We'll be alright, the tiges, we've got something.

 

[agincourt]

Can't agree with any of this Jamo, i think you've got the astbury affliction that a number of 'supporters' have. I even had an email from a supposed tigers supporter specifically to tell me how sh!t astbury was?? From my POV he works well under pressure and doesn't panic with ball, how can opinions differ so much? No preconceived ideas from me perhaps...
The we lost because Carlton kicked bad argument doesn't was with me either, we both kicked the same amount of points, some of theirs look completely stupid but they also kicked a couple out of their arse too.
Did Hawthorn drop their bundle on the weekend too? or do games go in swings and roundabouts much more often these days? 6 goals is not a match winning lead anymore, especially in the early rounds when match fitness hasn't peaked (or even in the later rounds when conditioning is being stretched for the longer finals season).
Take the blinkers off, let some of that 30 years of pain subside, and try to enjoy the ride. We'll be alright, the tiges, we've got something.

Have to say I agree with Jamo.
Watching the game live obviously means you miss some things, but the general feel for Astbury's game is that he was slow, got caught behind too many times and was lucky that Carlton were even worse than us.
Sure....he did a couple of good things, but overall the feeling was that he wouldn't even be there if we had any other half decent tall options.

 

[DeathNinthandTaxes]

Have to say I agree with Jamo.
Watching the game live obviously means you miss some things, but the general feel for Astbury's game is that he was slow, got caught behind too many times and was lucky that Carlton were even worse than us.
Sure....he did a couple of good things, but overall the feeling was that he wouldn't even be there if we had any other half decent tall options.

Sniff the wind again,agincourt, its the smell of a long term fullback you're getting.

 

[Hugo]

Nothing personal Jamo, just thought it was clear Astbury played a monster game for this club on Thursday night.

Monster in the sense that he was captain of the backline. Not Chaplin. Astbury took the world on his shoulders and won. Immense for his confidence and for his development.

I thought it was clearly his best game for the club too Carter. Chaplin was off, Rance was out, Morris was distracted and Grimes was resuming from a long break....Astbury was a rock. He makes up for a lack of pace with his reading of the play. Surprised at the negativity towards Dave, he and Griffiths are the big highlights so far in 2014.

 

[Tiger Pops]

Good test over the next three weeks. He comes up against Liam Jones (who playes well against the Tigers) might also get Crameri??? Then Friday week would be good to see if he can nullify Cloke and then Brown up at the GABBA on the Thursday pre Good Friday.

We'll know how much this kid has developed be the end of April. Wishing the kid lives up to the expectation of being given the #12 jumper.

Kid has only played 31 games!!!!

 

[Tigerfan]

He won't play on Brown

 

[TJsFurrow]

Waite may have the brain of a stegosaurus and the decision-making acumen of Peter Hoare after a tequila drinking contest but he can jump, he's quick and he's a genuine markologist. He took seven grabs - mostly up the ground - while Dave took a game high ten. He had thirteen touches to Dave's eighteen. Despite our man's close checking while being bombarded with chaos ball in the second half he only gave away one free kick.
I'd say that's a good game on a dangerous player. Dave's played something like twelve games in three years. Fair but of upside.

 

[Carter]

Waite may have the brain of a stegosaurus and the decision-making acumen of Peter Hoare after a tequila drinking contest but he can jump, he's quick and he's a genuine markologist. He took seven grabs - mostly up the ground - while Dave took a game high ten. He had thirteen touches to Dave's eighteen. Despite our man's close checking while being bombarded with chaos ball in the second half he only gave away one free kick.
I'd say that's a good game on a dangerous player. Dave's played something like twelve games in three years. Fair but of upside.

Very well played TJ.

 

[HandyTiger]

Waite may have the brain of a stegosaurus and the decision-making acumen of Peter Hoare after a tequila drinking contest but he can jump, he's quick and he's a genuine markologist. He took seven grabs - mostly up the ground - while Dave took a game high ten. He had thirteen touches to Dave's eighteen. Despite our man's close checking while being bombarded with chaos ball in the second half he only gave away one free kick.
I'd say that's a good game on a dangerous player. Dave's played something like twelve games in three years. Fair but of upside.

Very well put FrownLines

 

[GoodOne]

No I am seriously not kidding, Waite outmarked him and out lead him all night, Waite didn't kick well, that made Astbury look better than he was, you can choose not to beleive it, but put simply, thats how I saw it.

Well obviously he's going to be out-led, he's playing the backman position. He had more possiessions (by 5), more marks (by 3), 5 defensive 50 clearances (most for the Tigers), most 1%ers ie spoils, shepherds etc (by double anyone else). And all this whilst the Carlton forward line was being bombarded with unpressured ball. Astbury's job to nullify Waite was superb. Waite is no slouch and under the circumstances of supply he received, would have slaughtered most backmen. Astbury was instrumental in our win.

 

[CarnTheTiges]

Waite may have the brain of a stegosaurus and the decision-making acumen of Peter Hoare after a tequila drinking contest but he can jump, he's quick and he's a genuine markologist. He took seven grabs - mostly up the ground - while Dave took a game high ten. He had thirteen touches to Dave's eighteen. Despite our man's close checking while being bombarded with chaos ball in the second half he only gave away one free kick.
I'd say that's a good game on a dangerous player. Dave's played something like twelve games in three years. Fair but of upside.

Oh bugger, you're using facts again.