Its pretty standard sports champ bio stuff. There has to be a couple of candid nuggets the marketing people can hang their hat on, or no dice.
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Damien Hardwick
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We don't always have to imagine. Grant Thomas never bothered hiding it. He was correct at the time. And I remember seeing an interview during 2017 with Isaac Smith and that Swans reject who played for Hawthorn whose name I forget, when they were asked if we were a flag contender they both burst out laughing.
If he thinks what Dimma said after that game was bad, he should have been at my house!!
Dimma did innovate & make hard calls last year.
He moved out a young player from the forward line who'd kicked 19 goals from 9 games the year before for..Cotch.
I'm glad he's at the Suns.
He moved out a young player from the forward line who'd kicked 19 goals from 9 games the year before for..Cotch.
I'm glad he's at the Suns.
Don't get me wrong, I expect things like this in AFL. I haven't had anyone speak to me anywhere near like this
in 25? years of a professional career. Outside footy - this would likely get you fired. Not sure why folks think it's
OK in a workplace in this day and age, just because they're footballers?
You think many Millenials are up for this type of stuff?
You’d be horrified at the language used on a building site.
To be honest though, if he stopped playing so many under performing players it wouldn’t have come to that maybe:
nah not too horrified about that. Worked in construction for a couple of years in some major projects. I can distinguish the profanity used in a job
and someone putting you down or berating you. Not personally been in the latter position since I worked in a warehouse and was bullied as part
of a hazing type of thing.....a very long time ago.
Agreed.
I don’t think what Dimma apparently said is an issue at all, but everyone who has experienced the way life is now would know you would get a lot of people criticising the way he had spoken.
And really, if the demands the Cotchin’s expected and demanded to stay in the hub were released, I think it would show just how much of a privileged life and experience he had.
Nothing against Cotchin, he doesn’t know any better. He came from a private school, to a footy club and to earning hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. Sure he maybe had tough times to him with the life he had, but he didn’t lose every single thing he owned through covid like many others. They were demanding their preferred brand of mattress, many others were looking for a way to feed their family.
Bullying is never okay. I saw that happen to many apprenticed I have worked with and I would always stand against that even as an apprentice myself.
What I really mean is, if someone is calling you a useless c*nt, you can take offence if you aren’t , you can prove that you aren’t, or you can accept you probably were and be better.
I think what it really shows is the disconnect Dimma had with the players in the end.
If he said that in previous years it wouldn’t be an issue. They lost respect for him and his words.
I think they were fairly tight , he called him before he resigned didn’t he , dimma came back from Italy for his last game didn’t he . Actions speak louder than words
I just don’t see how it that bad. But maybe that’s my industry, previous jobs or my easy going attitude.
If he didn’t use the work c*nt, do others still consider it as bad? Being told if you don’t do your job like you are employed to someone else will replace you?
Not many millennials are up for any sort of criticism constructive or otherwise. But you eobt get better without someone telling you what you need to improve on.
I'm sure the C-bomb makes things worse, it's probably the one word left that shocks people. However it's more about how things are said, not what's said.
If he'd said, I think on paper, we're a better team than them, but you guys didn't play like it, if you want to play finals you gotta give better than that. It comes across a lot better than the proverbial "they're *smile*, but you're worse" type vibe that he gave. He's transferring responsibility to them. Ordinary. Not "Richmond man" type behaviour I reckon, whatever that means.
I struggle to describe the Richmond Man concept. Who else does?
I mean apart from when it relates to winning big games of footy
.
But a coach letting rip?
Or a former player describing in-house activities and events?
Or players/coaches leaving. Whatever it is.
My take is this.
One thing for sure is that Richmond Man isnt a holier than thou, only drinking tea and eating fish and chips type of person.
What we know is that it involves embracing each other, including our imperfections. Opening up and connecting to each other to enable better teamwork.
And promoting honesty and trust.
So a moment of heated frustration would normally be dealt with by open conversations afterward where a coach might admit he'll learn from it and be better
.
But conversations can be robust, and brutally honest, including performance reviews that are direct.
Remember this concept effectively replaced Leading Teams, that called for searing honesty that could dismantle a person's belief, confidence, belonging.
Our approach was to build connection and trust with the person first, so that the criticism could be constructive and not harmful. But importantly there was still direct criticism and honesty.
There's nothing to be ashamed about for a club to admit the coach went over the top. Imperfection. Emotion. Acceptance.
Its why Richmond Man was built - to cope with undeniable fact that people are at the club.
And so it can be printed in a book. It happened. Lets deal with it and be the best we can be.
I mean apart from when it relates to winning big games of footy
.But a coach letting rip?
Or a former player describing in-house activities and events?
Or players/coaches leaving. Whatever it is.
My take is this.
One thing for sure is that Richmond Man isnt a holier than thou, only drinking tea and eating fish and chips type of person.
What we know is that it involves embracing each other, including our imperfections. Opening up and connecting to each other to enable better teamwork.
And promoting honesty and trust.
So a moment of heated frustration would normally be dealt with by open conversations afterward where a coach might admit he'll learn from it and be better
.But conversations can be robust, and brutally honest, including performance reviews that are direct.
Remember this concept effectively replaced Leading Teams, that called for searing honesty that could dismantle a person's belief, confidence, belonging.
Our approach was to build connection and trust with the person first, so that the criticism could be constructive and not harmful. But importantly there was still direct criticism and honesty.
There's nothing to be ashamed about for a club to admit the coach went over the top. Imperfection. Emotion. Acceptance.
Its why Richmond Man was built - to cope with undeniable fact that people are at the club.
And so it can be printed in a book. It happened. Lets deal with it and be the best we can be.
I most dislike that “you’re worse than that bunch of spuds” is directed at a group that includes players who won 3 premierships for him.
Why did we lose to the bunch of spuds? Hardwick was also having a go at himself here. After all it was his team.
North beat us to there at one stage, did Hardwick say, "well the better team won!"
Hell no.
Who actually cares? I don't mind hearing about it though. It's real.
North beat us to there at one stage, did Hardwick say, "well the better team won!"
Hell no.
Who actually cares? I don't mind hearing about it though. It's real.
I don’t think you struggle to describe it at all.I struggle to describe the Richmond Man concept. Who else does?
I mean apart from when it relates to winning big games of footy
But a coach letting rip?
Or a former player describing in-house activities and events?
Or players/coaches leaving. Whatever it is.
My take is this.
One thing for sure is that Richmond Man isnt a holier than thou, only drinking tea and eating fish and chips type of person.
What we know is that it involves embracing each other, including our imperfections. Opening up and connecting to each other to enable better teamwork.
And promoting honesty and trust.
So a moment of heated frustration would normally be dealt with by open conversations afterward where a coach might admit he'll learn from it and be better
But conversations can be robust, and brutally honest, including performance reviews that are direct.
Remember this concept effectively replaced Leading Teams, that called for searing honesty that could dismantle a person's belief, confidence, belonging.
Our approach was to build connection and trust with the person first, so that the criticism could be constructive and not harmful. But importantly there was still direct criticism and honesty.
There's nothing to be ashamed about for a club to admit the coach went over the top. Imperfection. Emotion. Acceptance.
Its why Richmond Man was built - to cope with undeniable fact that people are at the club.
And so it can be printed in a book. It happened. Lets deal with it and be the best we can be.
