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The selectors are really stuffing things up for the long term.  A bunch of old batman failed against a good bowling attack in England, Hayden, Martyn, Katich and Gilchrist.

They all start making a few runs against crap bowling attacks and everythings ok.

They got rid of Martyn, good long-term move, then they bloody bring him back FFS.  Katich must have some compromising photos of Hohns or something, he simply has not earned the leeway they give him, and he's not young.

Gilchrist has earned leeway, as has Hayden i begrudgingly admit.

To have a proper tilt at the ashes, they should drop Hayden, Martyn and Katich, develop some new blood.  They can always bring back the old stagers if the new players fail.

You can only wonder what might have happened in the ashes if they had brought in Hussey for Hayden or Katich for the last 2 tests during the last Ashes
 
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tigersnake said:
The selectors are really stuffing things up for the long term. A bunch of old batman failed against a good bowling attack in England, Hayden, Martyn, Katich and Gilchrist.

They all start making a few runs against crap bowling attacks and everythings ok.

They got rid of Martyn, good long-term move, then they bloody bring him back FFS. Katich must have some compromising photos of Hohns or something, he simply has not earned the leeway they give him, and he's not young.

Gilchrist has earned leeway, as has Hayden i begrudgingly admit.

To have a proper tilt at the ashes, they should drop Hayden, Martyn and Katich, develop some new blood. They can always bring back the old stagers if the new players fail.

You can only wonder what might have happened in the ashes if they had brought in Hussey for Hayden or Katich for the last 2 tests during the last Ashes
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Great post TS.Martyn is a close mate of Ponting's which may explain his return to the side.
 
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Tigers of Old said:
PS: It was Trev's selections(see middle order, fast bowlers) that played a big part in us losing the Ashes.
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I reckon the guy who has escaped much of the criticism he is due for losing the Ashes is John Buchanan. The team were hopelessly underprepared for the tour. Inept against reverse swing and mentally not ready for the poms. That's all he's there for isn't it?

I agree some guys should have been dropped during the series but they weren't glaringly obvious decisons at the time. In the first few tests Martyn was pretty unlucky with some of his decisions and deserved another chance. Katich was actually one who played a few of the better innings early and really fell away later. The poor form of Gilchrist and Gillespie and the injury to McGrath were things the selectors couldn't really allow for.
 
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TigerGoneNorth said:
Tigers of Old said:
I agree some guys should have been dropped during the series but they weren't glaringly obvious decisons at the time.
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True Buchanan should have taken more heat but Hohns & co. completely escaped any blame which amazes me.

Martyn even though he got some dodgy decisions did'nt look like scoring a run. Gillespie didn't look like getting a wicket in the first two tests or the lead up matches but was persevered with even though it was clear as day in the first test he'd lost his zip. Hayden also can count himself extremely lucky to have played all matches.
But the biggest selection balls up IMO was that McGill wasn't selected at all!
Which given Warne's outstanding figures on tour against the Poms would suggest there biggest weakness was against leg spin. Yet he wasn't even given an opportunity!?!? They continued to select fast bowling hacks who were carted all over the park whilst McGill cooled his heels.
Hohns didn't make the hard calls during the Ashes IMO. It's easy to make scapegoats after the fact but he came up short whilst the series was up for grabs.
 
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Tigers of Old said:
TigerGoneNorth said:
Tigers of Old said:
I agree some guys should have been dropped during the series but they weren't glaringly obvious decisons at the time.
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True Buchanan should have taken more heat but Hohns & co. completely escaped any blame which amazes me.

Martyn even though he got some dodgy decisions did'nt look like scoring a run. Gillespie didn't look like getting a wicket in the first two tests or the lead up matches but was persevered with even though it was clear as day in the first test he'd lost his zip. Hayden also can count himself extremely lucky to have played all matches.
But the biggest selection balls up IMO was that McGill wasn't selected at all!
Which given Warne's outstanding figures on tour against the Poms would suggest there biggest weakness was against leg spin. Yet he wasn't even given an opportunity!?!? They continued to select fast bowling hacks who were carted all over the park whilst McGill cooled his heels.
Hohns didn't make the hard calls during the Ashes IMO. It's easy to make scapegoats after the fact but he came up short whilst the series was up for grabs.
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They didn't escape blame over here, the selectors were called to account quite often. I still think given the form Martyn had up to the Ashes and the fact his poor form in the first few tests could be explained by bad decisions meant the selctors got into a bind. By the time they really had to face up to dropping him or not the other options had been left without much match practice. Hodge was stiff not to get a run.

Gillespie did get dropped but they kept him a test too long although I think McGrath's ankle injury complicated that. I agree that McGill should have been played, that one was pretty clear.

Like I said I think some changes should have been made but I think they look a little clearer in hindsight.

I reckon one big problem these days is the dearth of tour matches which makes it hard for incumbents to be beaten out of a spot.

And I'm not making Buchanan a scapegoat after the fact. His role was being questioned during the one dayer and questions were also asked early on about our lack of a bowling coach - I reckon Dizzy might have used one. ::) There is also a school of thought that reckons Buchanan is culpable for the ball being left on the field for McGrath to stand on. A bit tenuous but not without some logic.

Truth is, there were many who contributed to our loss - Buchanan, Hohns, Ponting's captaincy. And we still didn't get rolled by that much!
 
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Great post TGN

Martyn was our best bat prior to Ashes and it was hard to drop off after 1-2 bad tests, plus Hodge was not making runs in his limited chances in tour matches and MacGill was not bowling well although I would have played him in last test.

Gilly's poor form and McGrath and Gillespie form and injury was unexpected.

To think we were outplayed for three tests and yet still nearly won two of them (2nd and 4th) means this year is going to be exciting.
 
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England are having all sorts of problems in Baroda. They only managed a total of 238 in the tour match against the President's XI (93/1), plus:

Simon Jones (stomach bug)
Shaun Udal (stomach bug, hospitalised)
Paul Collingwood (back soreness)
Kevin Pietersen (had to retire with back spasms)

The worst is that Michael Vaughan's knee injury has flared up again. He had surgery in December which was the third operation in six years on his right knee. Have to wonder if it will ever be fully right again, which is a shame for such a stylish batsman and insightful leader.

Vaughan is in serious doubt for the first Test in Nagpur which is only five days away.
 
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Speaking of nine, Simon Jones has been voted the ninth-sexiest man in the world by readers of a UK women's magazine.
 
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Symonds ruled out of 1 dayer today which would have been perfect for Jacques to play.But the bright selectors left him at home.
 
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Aust loses 2 early wickets.No surprises Kattich & Martyn out.Gilchrist just got dropped also.
 
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mb64 said:
Symonds ruled out of 1 dayer today which would have been perfect for Jacques to play.But the bright selectors left him at home.
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Apparently due to our illustrious selectors Mb, he cant field...... ::) ::) A absolute joke imo :mad:
 
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