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Malan seems to be built to bat in Aussie conditions. His batting averages.

In Australia, 551 runs at 46.
In England, 369 at 23
In NZ, 78 at 19.5.

Hasn't batted anywhere else in Tests.
He's a hit through the line player. Can trust the bounce here.
 
Spinners have always cleaned up the tail. In fact, good bowlers always have.

The best and easiest way to take a lot of top order wickets is to be a fast bowler with a new ball.

You need to stop complaining that Lyon is not Shane Warne and appreciate him for what he is.

Not playing a spinner is usually a dumb move.

At the risk of inserting more facts into the conversation,

Wickets Taken by Batting Order

Nathan Lyon
Top Order (1-3)
103 (25.4%)

Middle Order(4-7)
170 (41.9%)

Tail (8-11)
133 (32.8%)


Shane Warne
Top Order (1-3)
163 (23.0%)

Middle Order(4-7)
282 (39.8%)

Tail (8-11)
263 (37.1%)

The defence rests.


Dizzy was a champion.

McGrath-Gillespie is up there with Lillee-Thomson and Lindwall-Miller.
Carrying a big argument there spook, you sure it's safe to put the boot into Warnie like that ???? :)) :eek: :))
 
Not sure why Australia are still batting, especially if Starc isn't 100%.
If Starkers is injured n can't bowl then were without our 1 2 3 strike bowlers n using Nessie, Green n Jhye who have about ten tests worth of experience between them as well as Gary. Obviously we'd want as many runs as possible in the bank in case a few Poms get on a roll with over 4 sessions of play available to them.
Should still be able to winkle them out for around 300 the way they've been batting, but there's no way we'd want to give them half a sniff at squaring the series.
 
If Starkers is injured n can't bowl then were without our 1 2 3 strike bowlers n using Nessie, Green n Jhye who have about ten tests worth of experience between them as well as Gary. Obviously we'd want as many runs as possible in the bank in case a few Poms get on a roll with over 4 sessions of play available to them.
Should still be able to winkle them out for around 300 the way they've been batting, but there's no way we'd want to give them half a sniff at squaring the series.

The highest successful chase at the Adelaide Oval is 315. With the current target, England would need to score at nearly 4 an over. The chance of England winning is zero, but without the first choice bowlers and if Starc is iffie, I'd have thought Australia should have wanted as much time as possible rather than an extra 20-30 runs.

Will likely win regardless but seemed strange to keep batting away IMO. Increased the risk of a draw, what if some more storms had come through this evening and killed a couple of hours of play etc.
 
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Wish Lyon would try a straight or 'arm' ball occasionally. Seems to be more threatening, with better line & length to left handers.
 
This breakdown of wickets by batting positions is good stuff.

McGrath:
Top Order (1-3)
225 (40.0%)

Middle Order(4-7)
196 (34.8%)

Tail (8-11)
142 (25.2%)

Lillee:
Top Order (1-3)
128 (36.1%)

Middle Order(4-7)
130 (36.6%)

Tail (8-11)
97 (27.3%)

Gillespie:
Top Order (1-3)
97 (37.5%)

Middle Order(4-7)
100 (38.6%)

Tail (8-11)
62 (23.9%)

McDermott:
Top Order (1-3)
106 (36.4%)

Middle Order(4-7)
114 (39.2%)

Tail (8-11)
71 (24.4%)

May:
Top Order (1-3)
21 (28.0%)

Middle Order(4-7)
37 (49.3%)

Tail (8-11)
17 (22.7%)

Yardley:
Top Order (1-3)
28 (22.2%)

Middle Order(4-7)
61 (48.4%)

Tail (8-11)
37 (29.4%)

Mallett:
Top Order (1-3)
22 (16.7%)

Middle Order(4-7)
61 (46.2%)

Tail (8-11)
49 (37.1%) (Chappelli was renowned for getting Mallett and/or Jenner to clean up the tail.)

Murali:
Top Order (1-3)
202 (25.3%)

Middle Order(4-7)
338 (42.3%)

Tail (8-11)
260 (32.5%)

Good website! http://www.howstat.com/cricket/Statistics/Players/PlayerMenu.asp
Thanks for that very illuminating.
 
Green is going to uproot Root before too long.
Root seems to have less time v Green compared to other bowlers. Green generating sustained pace. Good opportunity for him to showcase his talent in an inexperienced (test wise) bowling group.
 
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Root seems to have less time v Green compared to other bowlers. Green generating sustained pace. Good opportunity for him to showcase his talent in an inexperienced (test wise) bowling group.

Greens going to be a very good player, a similar type to Stokes IMO. Stokes started in a similar way, better with the ball initially, but Green's batting will come on well IMO. Has all the talent to be the best all rounder in the world.
 
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England need to sit both Burns and Hameed down and force them to watch videos of Marnus so they know what they can and cannot leave. He leaves predominantly on length regardless of the angle. Burns in the 1st innings and Hameed now in the 2nd, didn't need to play at either delivery, they could have easily left on length. They need to learn that its not England, these wickets are bloody hard and will bounce well.
Should make them sit down and listen to Marnus for a couple of hours. Would do more psychological damage than an Adelaide Crows training camp.
 
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Root seems to have less time v Green compared to other bowlers. Green generating sustained pace. Good opportunity for him to showcase his talent in an inexperienced (test wise) bowling group.
Yes, Green reminds of Glen McGrath a bit. Not saying he is anywhere as good, but with his height he gets that extra bit of bounce off a good length ball.
 
Lyon does not operate well on spinning pitches when everything is in his favour. He bowls too straight. He should be cleaning up ala the way ashwin does on a spinning wicket. He obviously doesn’t listen to advice. A bit frustrating to watch. Queue 3 quick Lyon wickets
 
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Smith won't bowl himself but wouldn't hurt to have Marnus roll his arm over in the closing stages of the day
 
Greens going to be a very good player, a similar type to Stokes IMO. Stokes started in a similar way, better with the ball initially, but Green's batting will come on well IMO. Has all the talent to be the best all rounder in the world.
Yeh just 22 could be anything