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It's fair enough to warn the batsman because otherwise Lewis would have been at the striker's end by the time McMillan was in his delivery stride.
And the hubris can wait until Friday at least :scold ;D
rosy23 said:I wanted the Poms to lose until the last few balls when the Kiwi bowler did his mancad threat. :
It's fair enough to warn the batsman because otherwise Lewis would have been at the striker's end by the time McMillan was in his delivery stride.
And the hubris can wait until Friday at least :scold ;D
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Yep,thought the Kiwis were better but obviously not.rosy23 said:I wanted the Poms to lose until the last few balls when the Kiwi bowler did his mancad threat. :
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The BlackCaps were robbed by that shocking no-ball call when Gilly got Flintoff caught..........was supposedely above the waist... what a load of crap
The BlackCaps were robbed by that shocking no-ball call when Gilly got Flintoff caught..........was supposedely above the waist... what a load of crap
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But it was above the waist :headscratch
It was the botched run-out at the non-striker's end that cost you :nodyes
But it was above the waist :headscratch
It was the botched run-out at the non-striker's end that cost you :nodyes
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Yes, Gilly did stuff that run out chance, but in regards to the catch, after looking at the last replay the height looked ok..... anyway, revenge will be sweet next time around.
Yes, Gilly did stuff that run out chance, but in regards to the catch, after looking at the last replay the height looked ok..... anyway, revenge will be sweet next time around.
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Just took the future Baggy Green wearer down to the nets to try his new Kookaburra Beast out(smallest one still to heavy) an no word of a lie every kid down there had the same bat
Just took the future Baggy Green wearer down to the nets to try his new Kookaburra Beast out(smallest one still to heavy) an no word of a lie every kid down there had the same bat
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The 'finisher' Michael Bevan arguably Australia's best one day cricketer, has announced his retirement from 1st class cricket today.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,21073647-23212,00.html
Despite never fulfilling his abilities as a test cricketer, in spite of his incredible 1st class average, Bevo was a terrific success as a one day player. He was responsible for some of the most thrilling wins the Aussies have had on the OD arena. :clap :clap
The 'finisher' Michael Bevan arguably Australia's best one day cricketer, has announced his retirement from 1st class cricket today.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,21073647-23212,00.html
Despite never fulfilling his abilities as a test cricketer, in spite of his incredible 1st class average, Bevo was a terrific success as a one day player. He was responsible for some of the most thrilling wins the Aussies have had on the OD arena. :clap :clap
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Too right ToO. I was telling mother about that win against the Kiwis, from memory, when Australia were in the poo and needing a substantial amount to win the game and he came in, that computer-like brain assessed what was required, and he finished up winning the game without taking any risks with superb timing and skill, getting a century and being the toast of Australia for a long time afterwards.
Well done Bevo, you should be proud of what you've done. :clap :clap :clap
Too right ToO. I was telling mother about that win against the Kiwis, from memory, when Australia were in the poo and needing a substantial amount to win the game and he came in, that computer-like brain assessed what was required, and he finished up winning the game without taking any risks with superb timing and skill, getting a century and being the toast of Australia for a long time afterwards.
Well done Bevo, you should be proud of what you've done. :clap :clap :clap
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Prefer Mark Waugh champ Sorry to disagree with you ToO but there is no way I would Bevan in top 10 best cricketers. If I was to do a side of best one day cricketers for Australia since mid 1980's I would have him competiting for 12th man with Andrew Symonds.
(Batting would be M.Waugh, Gilly, Punter, Jones, Border, S.Waugh, O'Donnell).
Bevan was not a popular cricketer with his team mates as never socialised much during day/night from readings and was unpopular for his very extreme temper tantrums which apparently were legendary and the worst seen. IMO I also thought at times he was a selfish cricketer as seen by some to be the same, his retirement could be seen as this as he has retired after missing the 30 man squad for the world cup which he was disappointed to miss this.
He also was reluctant to bowl even after having success in a test in Adelaide getting 10 wickets, on the following tour to England was said to have refused to bowl in a county match as he was said to say he was there for his batting, (this proved to be a fatal error as he was dropped after 4th test). Bevan also had shortcomings against the short ball which made him look embrassing and may have led to him being dropped from the one day team when the rule was intorduced. This proved to be the end of his test career, its ok to look a bit silly against the Windies but when you look meek and timid against a pop gun English attack in 1997 then you should not be selected as a batsman.
Sorry to dance on his grave ToO but just didnt rate him at all, I know he played some great innings for Australia and i acknowledge that and thats why I would have him in a squad of 12-13 best players for Australia in the one day uniform but IMO not the best.
Tigers of Old said:
Prefer Mark Waugh champ
Sorry to disagree with you ToO but there is no way I would Bevan in top 10 best cricketers. If I was to do a side of best one day cricketers for Australia since mid 1980's I would have him competiting for 12th man with Andrew Symonds.(Batting would be M.Waugh, Gilly, Punter, Jones, Border, S.Waugh, O'Donnell).
Bevan was not a popular cricketer with his team mates as never socialised much during day/night from readings and was unpopular for his very extreme temper tantrums which apparently were legendary and the worst seen. IMO I also thought at times he was a selfish cricketer as seen by some to be the same, his retirement could be seen as this as he has retired after missing the 30 man squad for the world cup which he was disappointed to miss this.
He also was reluctant to bowl even after having success in a test in Adelaide getting 10 wickets, on the following tour to England was said to have refused to bowl in a county match as he was said to say he was there for his batting, (this proved to be a fatal error as he was dropped after 4th test). Bevan also had shortcomings against the short ball which made him look embrassing and may have led to him being dropped from the one day team when the rule was intorduced. This proved to be the end of his test career, its ok to look a bit silly against the Windies but when you look meek and timid against a pop gun English attack in 1997 then you should not be selected as a batsman.
Sorry to dance on his grave ToO but just didnt rate him at all, I know he played some great innings for Australia and i acknowledge that and thats why I would have him in a squad of 12-13 best players for Australia in the one day uniform but IMO not the best.
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I despise Bevan as much as most through his selfish batting antics and attitude even to the point of going to Tassie to try and gain a World Cup spot for this year.
But to not have him in year best ever one day team is ludicrous (and I expect better from you knighter!). His woeful Test performances are not relevant.
I despise Bevan as much as most through his selfish batting antics and attitude even to the point of going to Tassie to try and gain a World Cup spot for this year.
But to not have him in year best ever one day team is ludicrous (and I expect better from you knighter!). His woeful Test performances are not relevant.
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I'm well aware Bevo polarised some people, just don't believe everything you 'read' about the guy he had some notable media types working against him, most notably Ian Chappell whom he had a falling out with in the early 90s. Incidentaly Chappelli labelled S. Waugh a selfish cricketer as well. Go figure. :
You'll note I said he was arguably our best one day player.
No he was not our biggest hitter but he was excellent at chasing down targets and batting with the lower order to win a game.
I was an unashamed fan and would have him ahead of many of the names you mentioned because he placed such a high value on his wicket in the OD form of the game. If that's percieved as selfish because he tried to win cricket games well ???
He achieved victories on countless occassions for Australia, almost to the point where many expected it and criticized him if he didn't. Where other players recklessly threw their wickets away, Bevan played the anchor role to a tee and could hit boundaries as required. This was openly his role in the side and he played it to perfection.
His running between the wickets, ability to calculate the run rate and chase down a targe, revolutionised the one day game. Mike Hussey(who now plays that role, even better) has openly admitted that Bevan had a huge influence on the way he approached the game. Fair compliment.
It's a bit lame to bring out the ol' chestnut re his shortcomings against the short ball.
He averaged 60 in first class cricket and they bowl bouncers there don't they?
I always felt he failed at test level because it was a confidence issue more than anything rather than technique. The demons got inside his head at test level and no argument he lost the plot. It was unfortunate because I always felt he had it to be a great success. I think the selectors did too hence his number of opportunities. Unfortunately I think Bevan lacked the belief in himself at the highest level and never felt he belonged.
As far as the reintroduction of the short ball at OD cricket, I'd say it had more to do with Ponting's elevation to the captaincy than any reintroduction of the bouncer. After some slight injury concern's, Bevan's diminished role in the side coincided with Ponting's desire to push Symonds and Clarke ahead of him in the order. He was (unfairly IMO) stripped of his ACB contract shortly afterwards only to come out and average 97 in the Pura Cup for Tasmania the season after and play an integral role in the Tiger's title success in the national OD competition.
Bag him all you like Knighter but it won't change my opnion of him. Bevan was a super talent.
mk33 said:
I'm well aware Bevo polarised some people, just don't believe everything you 'read' about the guy he had some notable media types working against him, most notably Ian Chappell whom he had a falling out with in the early 90s. Incidentaly Chappelli labelled S. Waugh a selfish cricketer as well. Go figure. :
You'll note I said he was arguably our best one day player.
No he was not our biggest hitter but he was excellent at chasing down targets and batting with the lower order to win a game.
I was an unashamed fan and would have him ahead of many of the names you mentioned because he placed such a high value on his wicket in the OD form of the game. If that's percieved as selfish because he tried to win cricket games well ???
He achieved victories on countless occassions for Australia, almost to the point where many expected it and criticized him if he didn't. Where other players recklessly threw their wickets away, Bevan played the anchor role to a tee and could hit boundaries as required. This was openly his role in the side and he played it to perfection.
His running between the wickets, ability to calculate the run rate and chase down a targe, revolutionised the one day game. Mike Hussey(who now plays that role, even better) has openly admitted that Bevan had a huge influence on the way he approached the game. Fair compliment.
It's a bit lame to bring out the ol' chestnut re his shortcomings against the short ball.
He averaged 60 in first class cricket and they bowl bouncers there don't they?
I always felt he failed at test level because it was a confidence issue more than anything rather than technique. The demons got inside his head at test level and no argument he lost the plot. It was unfortunate because I always felt he had it to be a great success. I think the selectors did too hence his number of opportunities. Unfortunately I think Bevan lacked the belief in himself at the highest level and never felt he belonged.
As far as the reintroduction of the short ball at OD cricket, I'd say it had more to do with Ponting's elevation to the captaincy than any reintroduction of the bouncer. After some slight injury concern's, Bevan's diminished role in the side coincided with Ponting's desire to push Symonds and Clarke ahead of him in the order. He was (unfairly IMO) stripped of his ACB contract shortly afterwards only to come out and average 97 in the Pura Cup for Tasmania the season after and play an integral role in the Tiger's title success in the national OD competition.
Bag him all you like Knighter but it won't change my opnion of him. Bevan was a super talent.
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In bevans latter seasons with the ODI team he suffered leg injuries and his fielding suffered. Hence Symonds and Clarke were preferred in the ODI team.
At his peak, I've never seen a batsman place the ball better. He seemed to turn 1's into 2's and 2's into 3's on a regular basis. Bevan set the standard for middle order players in one day teams.
Enjoy your retirement Bev; you've earned it.
In bevans latter seasons with the ODI team he suffered leg injuries and his fielding suffered. Hence Symonds and Clarke were preferred in the ODI team.
At his peak, I've never seen a batsman place the ball better. He seemed to turn 1's into 2's and 2's into 3's on a regular basis. Bevan set the standard for middle order players in one day teams.
Enjoy your retirement Bev; you've earned it.
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His test batting didnt come into my thoughts otherwise would not consider him. IMO its a toss up between him Jones/Border and S.Waugh and Bevan for middle order spots and all would hold their own. My bias is probably coming through as a fan of Border and Waugh (though never liked Jones), I just think they also offered more with their fielding and in cases of Waugh and Border their bowling.
ToO mate its just an opinion or a thought no right or wrong answer and I maybe bias but I acknowledge Bevo was a good batsman just prefered others. My best 3 one day cricketers would be
1 Gilly 2 M.Waugh 3 Ponting
Will agree he did time some of his innings well to be in match winning positions like the WI last ball, NZL match and match v England in World Cup and batted well with the tail. I just think others have been better one day cricketers.
Didnt know Chappelli labelled him selfish cricketer more Craddock, Coward. I know Chappelli does not rate Border and Waugh as didnt have them in his best one day or test team since 1985.
jb03 said:
His test batting didnt come into my thoughts otherwise would not consider him. IMO its a toss up between him Jones/Border and S.Waugh and Bevan for middle order spots and all would hold their own. My bias is probably coming through as a fan of Border and Waugh (though never liked Jones), I just think they also offered more with their fielding and in cases of Waugh and Border their bowling.
ToO mate its just an opinion or a thought no right or wrong answer and I maybe bias but I acknowledge Bevo was a good batsman just prefered others. My best 3 one day cricketers would be
1 Gilly 2 M.Waugh 3 Ponting
Will agree he did time some of his innings well to be in match winning positions like the WI last ball, NZL match and match v England in World Cup and batted well with the tail. I just think others have been better one day cricketers.
Didnt know Chappelli labelled him selfish cricketer more Craddock, Coward. I know Chappelli does not rate Border and Waugh as didnt have them in his best one day or test team since 1985.
