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[Ready]

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And of course the two touring sides never play each other in Melbourne. :scold

Why have a few thousand people rattling around a 100,000 seat venue?
It would probably cost money to stage and would look rank on TV with loads of empty bays.

They already have that, it's whatever the Sheffield Shield is called nowadays :wavey

 

[mk33]

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Great to see Stickers Harwood and Bear White in action last night. Unfortunately Stickers may never play for Australia again as would need injuries in world cup team to play and at age 32 has time against but he acquited himself well (accept for drop catch) in the conditions.

Must see Peter Parker looked great in black lycra last night.

 

[skiptomystu]

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Yes Harwood unfortunately maybe a bit too old, but he put in one hell of a performance last night (other than the dropped catch), and I would love nothing more than to see him make the cut for the World Cup side. He has that very decieving pace, that, to new batsman that have never seen him before, produces wickets. That is IMO why he should be selected.

 

[Gordietiger]

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Yes Harwood was good-it is unfortunate that for his whole career that just when he seemed on the verge-he would break down. He may have missed the boat with his age-but he does have deceptive pace and is as good as exponent of reverse swing as anybody. Whites innings was a gem-that screaming off drive was as hard a drive as I have ever seen-will surely get a contract with ACB-must go to World Cup. Have heard alot about Hilfenhaus-he is tall, has bounce and beautiful late swing---we will see alot more of this bloke. We haven't had a genuine right arm swing bowler since? Fleming maybe.

 

[mk33]

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Yeah its a pity age and injuries have not been kind to Harwood.

Must say Hillenfaus bowling (apart from Peter Parker uniform) was highlight of the night.

 

[Anduril]

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Yeah its a pity age and injuries have not been kind to Harwood.

Must say Hillenfaus bowling (apart from Peter Parker uniform) was highlight of the night.

Agree. Loved Cam White's game too.

(I was taught black was slimming )

 

[zips]

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He looked like Jabba The Hutt last night. He obviously enjoys the tea breaks more than the players.

 

[Tigers of Old]

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Leading into the ODIs, I just had a quick looks at Mike Hussey's stats:

ODIs - 48 matches. Average 77. Strike rate 94.22.

Tests - 16 matches. Average 80.

How well is Mr Cricket travelling?
Make no mistake, despite Puntings unbelievable batting this season, Hussey's injection into this Australian team has seen it go from good to great.

It's still relatively early days but he is shaping as a genuine superstar!

 

[mk33]

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Vics are into final of 20/20 after a win against WA last night batting second.

David Hussey scoring 86 off 36 balls with 7 sixes 6 fours, Cameron White 50.
Vics now play Tassie at the G in the final on Saturday.

One thing did note was Ben Edmondson extraordinary long run up from near the sightscreen, fair amount of effort just to be whacked back over your head.

 

[tigertim]

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I wonder if the progress of Mike Hussey opens the eyes of the selectors to David Hussey? He's not a patch on Mike in first class cricket but in the one dayers I reckon he'd do ok.

 

[tigersnake]

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dunno if anyone has posted this, but hows this for typical Ch 9 crap.  Last ever session of test cricket for SK Warne, the greatest, and also McGrath and JL.  I'm in Bris, a few mates around with a bottle of champagne for breakfast to mark the occassion.  We turn on the telly at 9 AM (we don't have daylight savings here, its a commie plot), gues what?  We treated to Heres Humphrey.  We look at each other, 'must be raining in Sydney' I say.  We tune in to ABC radio, no its not raining.  Channel 9 delayed the last ever session of cricket by 2 legends, including possibly the greatest ever player, for Here's Humphrey.  And besides, the singing is flat, I expect more for our Aussie kids.

Cricket came on half an hour into the session, after 2 wickets.

 

[Leysy Days]

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lol snake,

on cricinfo on the match ball by ball description they let everyone know as well.

just as McGrath took another wicket Humphreys doin a danece & blowin out a cake :hihi

 

[tigersnake]

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lol snake,

on cricinfo on the match ball by ball description they let everyone know as well.

just as McGrath took another wicket Humphreys doin a danece & blowin out a cake :hihi

thats pretty funny Brian. I could'nt believe it. Its always annoyed me how they used to go to the news regardless of how the match was poised, Aussies after all wait nightly with baited breath to wath a bloke with a moustache read from an outocue, but they have stopped doing that lately. But bloody Humphrey? There was a pretty big uproar here, letters to the editor etc. Funny looking back, wasn't laughing at the time.

 

[Ready]

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Instead of writing letters to the Courier Mail about Channel Nine's admitted trampling all over everyone but those providing advertising revenue, why not take The New Joh to task for failing to follow the lead of every other civilised jurisdiction in the western world?

The more things change in Queensland, the more they stay the same :wavey

 

[Bill James]

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Now that Warne has gone, ( May Murali be no balled out of the game before he cracks the record), what think ye all of S MacGill. Personally I think he is flattered by two factors. Firstly he has played a dispraportinate number of matches against Bangladesh and at Sydney. Secondly because he rarely plays a full series against any team the batsmen never have the opportunity to get a look at him and get hold of him.

S MacGill	Matches	O	R	W	BBI	BBM	AVE	Econ	SR	5	10
Overall	40	1702	5387	198	8/108	12/107	27.20	3.16	51.50	12	2
v Bangladesh	4	161	520	33	8/108	10/133	15.75	3.22	29.20	4	1
@ Sydney	8	418	1297	53	7/50	12/107	24.47	3.10	47.30	5	1
Rest of Career	28	1123	3570	112	5/57	9/113	31.88	3.18	60.16	3	0

 

[poppa x]

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Good figures there Wild Bill.  I've never thought of it that way.  I wonder if you are able to pull out the same figures for Warney and the No baller?  It would help genuine comparisons between the 3.

Apart from the stats, I get the feeling (with no evidence to support it) that Macgilla is not a 100% team player.  ie, a bit selfish.  I think the same applies to Murali who looks to be sulking when others are taking wickets and he's not getting a bowl.

And speaking of the Sri Lankans, there slinging opening bowler may be the wild card at the world cup.  He's real fast and his slinging action makes him hard to pick.

 

[Bill James]

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S Warne  for comparison

S Warne	Matches	O	R	W	BBI	BBM	AVE	Econ	SR	5	10
Overall	145	6784	17995	708	8/71	12/128	25.41	2.65	57.40	37	10
v Bangladesh	2	87	300	11	5/113	8/160	27.27	3.43	47.60	1	0
@ Sydney	14	676	1800	64	7/56	12/128	28.12	2.66	63.40	4	2
Rest of Career	129	6020	15895	633	8/71	12/246	25.11	2.64	57.06	32	8

 

[poppa x]

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So excluding Sydney and Bangladesh, Warney has a much better average, strike rate and economy than Macgilla. This is an interesting stat that most have overlooked.

Great Stuff Bill !!

 

[Tigers of Old]

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Now that Warne has gone what think ye all of S MacGill. Personally I think he is flattered by two factors. Firstly he has played a dispraportinate number of matches against Bangladesh and at Sydney. Secondly because he rarely plays a full series against any team the batsmen never have the opportunity to get a look at him and get hold of him.

S MacGill	Matches	O	R	W	BBI	BBM	AVE	Econ	SR	5	10
Overall	40	1702	5387	198	8/108	12/107	27.20	3.16	51.50	12	2
v Bangladesh	4	161	520	33	8/108	10/133	15.75	3.22	29.20	4	1
@ Sydney	8	418	1297	53	7/50	12/107	24.47	3.10	47.30	5	1
Rest of Career	28	1123	3570	112	5/57	9/113	31.88	3.18	60.16	3	0

So excluding Sydney and Bangladesh, Warney has a much better average, strike rate and economy than Macgilla. This is an interesting stat that most have overlooked.

Great Stuff Bill !!

More MacGill bashing? :

So we've established Warne is a better bowler than Stuey MacGill hey??
Well I never..he's only like the greatest leg spinner ever! :hihi

In spite of the heavily spiked stats, 31 for the rest of his career is still a very respectable average for a traditional leg spinner.

Have a look at how MacGill's stacks up against Richie Benaud's statistics for a comparison Bill.
Or Bob Holland's, Abdul Qadir or Anil Kumble for that matter!

Talk about wrangling statistics but that's rarely a surprise from BJ.
If you look at at the Sydney statistics as part of your argument, how does that explain McGill's average at the ground is considerably better than Warne's by some margin? They are both leg spinners, surely Warne enjoyed similar benefits of bowling on a spinning pitch? He also likely played in the majority of the same games as MacGill.
As for the Bangladesh argument. MacGill has played 2 more games than Warne against them. 2 games! Hardly enough to reach a conclusive decision on that basis.
You can only bowl out the teams you are selected against and MacGill has usually done well when selected.

As for the feeling that he's a selfish player? Since when was wanting to do well personally a crime in cricket?
It's very much an individual game despite the fact that 'teams' play it.

Why can't people just let it be that MacGill is the next best leggie in Australia who played in the shadow of a legend and let it be?
The fact that you have to resort to comparing him to Warney at all should be a compliment of the highest order.
He would have played plenty more cricket for the green & gold had he not been in Warne's era.
I won't be surprised to see him play more now that the genius he was competing with for a game has retired.
I hope he does.

 

[Bunnerz]

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went to the first one dayer, crap match a lot of drunks
had to be drunk to enjoy it, so it was fun.

gilchrist got a lucky one when appealing to save a wide off mcgrath to see the umpire give dalrymple out....everyone was shocked