That was no Royal Commissioner and the parameters set out for the hearings were farcical.
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I'm cynical, but I think they may have made excuses to slow down the transition back to Pfizer three week shots so that the 80% double vaxed would be less likely to occur before the Melb Cup weekend, meaning the intrastate travel restriction could be retained without needing to change the "roadmap". And the "re-opening" wouldn't be on a party long weekend.
A similar thing occurred last year when the targets for intrastate travel changed just before the long weekend.
I've been involved in this thread for a little while and I have been mulling recently "when did the left become so authoritarian?". The discussion on here is so banal and lacking in any sophistication. Dogma is trotted out as science, Dissent is of course heresy and posters shout out for the full powers of the state be used to protect the norms from the not norms.
Then tonight I found this clip which eloquently reflects my unease at this situation.
Then tonight I found this clip which eloquently reflects my unease at this situation.
Yeah, I've noticed a fair bit of dogma trotted out as science.
I think it started with hydrochloroquin, moved on to getting sunlight into peoples' bodies, has now arrived at horse parasite treatment and we are all wondering what miracle cure the RWNJs will come up with next.
Anything to avoid having to have a needle in the arm I suppose, such wimps.
DS
I think it started with hydrochloroquin, moved on to getting sunlight into peoples' bodies, has now arrived at horse parasite treatment and we are all wondering what miracle cure the RWNJs will come up with next.
Anything to avoid having to have a needle in the arm I suppose, such wimps.
DS
Yes, it was a Board of Inquiry not RC headed by a ex Judge who had been a commissioner on the child sex abuse Royal Commission and is also an ex Victorian State Coroner.
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Well I will close my office immediately. How can anything be "without risks" . I have stairs, short of belaying everyone who comes and goes someone can always fall. If a risk is unreseanonable or excessive fair enough.
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Yep.
I didnt realise till I visited again the way the "inquiry" was noted. Not Judicial Inquiry as Dan initially stated. Here is a quick article that explains it. Bending the perception a touch on what many thought was organised and what eventuated as a type of inquiry
Daniel Andrews' not-so-judicial quarantine inquiry
'There was a need for a judicial inquiry, and that's why I've set one up,' Victoria's Premier said on Wednesday. Only, he hasn't.
Not sure of the point. The inquiry was quite scathing of early days of Victoria’s HQ. It just didn’t find the smoking gun that many were hoping for.Yep.
I didnt realise till I visited again the way the "inquiry" was noted. Not Judicial Inquiry as Dan initially stated. Here is a quick article that explains it. Bending the perception a touch on what many thought was organised and what eventuated as a type of inquiry
Daniel Andrews' not-so-judicial quarantine inquiry
'There was a need for a judicial inquiry, and that's why I've set one up,' Victoria's Premier said on Wednesday. Only, he hasn't.www.afr.com
The sticking point for the AFR seems to be that it was led by a highly credentialed former judge rather than a sitting judge. Wowee.
She is also an ex coroner and coroners are well credentialed into looking into systems, processes and decision making as they are in things related to the health system as a lot of coroner cases relate to that.
True. More the type of Inquiry. As you mentioned. backing up point u Board of Inquiry made compared people thinking it was a Judicial Inquiry
Heads up, there is a tier 1 exposure site at Australia Post Tullamarine. Express Post is highly unlikely to be delivered today.
Starting to wonder if Stig is Bernie Finn. That would explain a lot.
actually, there is a smoking gun. just not the smoking gun Andrews critics want. One of the obvious things to come out of this inquiry is that COVID is a health and safety issue. If Workcover are laying charges against VIC Health for not maintaining a safe workplace by exposing staff to COVID, this will give the state government a mandate to enforce vaccines at all VIC workplaces… And also for people who enter workplaces.
Isn’t it ironic that the anti-lockdown/antii-vaxxers who are calling for Andrews to be sacked may end up finding themselves out of a job
Starting to wonder if Stig is Bernie Finn. That would explain a lot.
actually, there is a smoking gun. just not the smoking gun Andrews critics want. One of the obvious things to come out of this inquiry is that COVID is a health and safety issue. If Workcover are laying charges against VIC Health for not maintaining a safe workplace by exposing staff to COVID, this will give the state government a mandate to enforce vaccines at all VIC workplaces… And also for people who enter workplaces.
Isn’t it ironic that the anti-lockdown/antii-vaxxers who are calling for Andrews to be sacked may end up finding themselves out of a job
Here's the thing Worksafe will always find on the side of the employee if injury has occurred at a workplace unless there as egregious fault by the employee. I reckon the other Ian is right employees catching covid at a workplace due to unvaccinated staff is a can of worms worksafe wise.
Or even catching it from vaccinated staff too. Ohhh no. Back to caves we gooooo! Haha
My employer announced yesterday that you'll need to be double-vaxxed if you want to return to the office. Started with incentives to get jabbed, then customer-facing staff, now pretty much all employees. Creeping, creeping.
That’s an oversimplification. Charges would relate to failing to maintain a safe workplace , so far as is reasonably practicable, and each one will point to a specific issue such as failure to provide adequate training, PPE etc.
if they were satisfied that the systems in place were adequate it’s unlikely that any charges would be laid, despite there being transmission that occurred. The charges would relate to ‘gaps’ that were deemed as not being not good enough at the time.
