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I like the boldness of the stimulus package in terms of size, we can argue about if its going in the right places or not. It has to be done.

Just an update on my situation - I'm still in Indonesia. Was in Australia briefly last week to see family and actually got tested for COVID as I had some minor symptoms. Went to the Northern - very professional, good assessment, staff doing their best and patients very well behaved. I doubt I have it but will get the results in a few days.

Unfortunately my girlfriend here in Jakarta is quite sick (not Corona) and I couldn't leave her here, so made the tough decision to head back. Wish me luck guys. Hospitals here are full of sick people - although cases are still officially low the Doctors told me its dangerous to stay in hospitals for too long because of virus risk.

Could be a tough ride here, hope to see you all on the other side.

Good luck mate. Keep in mind, probability still says any individual will be fine.
 
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I don't think our position is comparable to the US. New York state alone has 15K (known) infections.

I was thinking in terms of the amount of testing and thus the reliability of the data. We, like the U.S. haven't been testing widely enough to produce accurate numbers on the infection rate I don't think. Could today's spike in cases in the U.S. be an artifact of the increased testing?
 
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Is the common cold and flu the same thing?


Common cold is caused by a range of different viruses, many of which are corona viruses, so Covid 19 is actually closer to the common cold than influenza.

It's actually inefficient for a virus to kill its host. Over time it should evolve into milder strains so over time COVID19 should be a milder virus that kills even fewer people.
 
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Common cold is caused by a range of different viruses, many of which are corona viruses, so Covid 19 is actually closer to the common cold than influenza.

It's actually inefficient for a virus to kill its host. Over time it should evolve into milder strains so over time COVID19 should be a milder virus that kills even fewer people.
So then the Coroner should over time turn into a fluffy poodle instead of a rabid pit bull. Is it actually the virus that evolves into a milder form or is there more a herd immunity built up in humans that lessens the impact of the virus, until of course it mutates into another strain altogether.
 
So then the Coroner should over time turn into a fluffy poodle instead of a rabid pit bull. Is it actually the virus that evolves into a milder form or is there more a herd immunity built up in humans that lessens the impact of the virus, until of course it mutates into another strain altogether.

CoburgTiger is probably much better on this than me... but these kind of viruses tend to mutate to milder strains through a process of natural selection I assume - if you kill the host, you can't reproduce. At the same time we develop more natural immunity through exposure. So it's both.

Disclaimer - I don't really know what I'm talking about here
 
and another cruise ship on the way. Thankfully the WA mob have better control of this than Sydney did.

A cruise ship with 250 sick passengers has asked permission to dock at Fremantle, possibly as soon as Monday night.

Western Australian Premier Mark McGowan said the MSC Magnifica was carrying more than 1700 passengers – 250 of whom have reported respiratory illnesses.

Cruise ship with 250 ill patients wants to dock in WA
 
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and another cruise ship on the way. Thankfully the WA mob have better control of this than Sydney did.



Cruise ship with 250 ill patients wants to dock in WA
Talk about having the nuts caught between a rock n a hard place.
Let the ship dock n try to isolate / control everyone on board while pushing the *smile* out of the health system by throwing in a massive extra amount of sick people.
Or tell them to *smile* off elsewhere n put the already sick at high risk of croaking plus possibly infecting the rest of the passengers n crew.

One for the Fed Govt. to pull the finger out on n chuck in a heap of extra assistance.
 
I was thinking in terms of the amount of testing and thus the reliability of the data. We, like the U.S. haven't been testing widely enough to produce accurate numbers on the infection rate I don't think. Could today's spike in cases in the U.S. be an artifact of the increased testing?

The figures will always trail reality but I reckon ours are a lot closer than the US. Yeah the increased testing is no doubt partly responsible for the US increase which is frightening at around 40% a day and indicates how big a head start the virus has.

The president of the US Federal Reserve has spoken of a 50% reduction in GDP for the quarter, with 30% unemployment. Going to get real bad, real quick.
 
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CoburgTiger is probably much better on this than me... but these kind of viruses tend to mutate to milder strains through a process of natural selection I assume - if you kill the host, you can't reproduce. At the same time we develop more natural immunity through exposure. So it's both.

Disclaimer - I don't really know what I'm talking about here

Well said antman. Posted something similar at the start of this thread.

Like what? I posted pretty much everything I think about this on the first page. It looks right, and there's not much new information.

Keep washing your hands. There's not a lot we can do. I'm all for restricting travel in this case. But I don't think it's gonna do much. As I said on page 1. I don't see any way this doesn't spread around the globe. I don't see any way there aren't lots of deaths.

One little bit of optimism I have; viruses are just as susceptible to evolutionary pressures as we are. And often become less lethal as they spread (killing your host is not a great way to get passed on - particularly with symptomatic/severe cases being quarantined).

It seems that those variants which cause milder symptoms are more likely to be passed on, which can be like a natural attenuation (something we do to pathogens to make some vaccines). So it may be that the variants which reach us first are less lethal, giving us some protection.

But then there is a whole complicated question about how much of being a mild case is host driven, and how much is due to the virus.

Anyway. Wash your hands.
 
I hadn't seen this before, but just saw the 10 news first pop up bulletin.

Talking about job losses in AFL / postponement of the Olympics and I kid you not, the bulletin was sponsored by Fuchs. Haha, we sure are.
 
It was kinda duscussed previously by Lee and TOO - but why aren't governments implementing measures to completely isolate the elderly and health compromised until a vaccine is developed and let the rest go on as usual? The impact of total shut down is gonna be enormous.
 
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What I don't understand are the half measures. It's got me completely confused & I'm sure many are feeling the same way.
How are they going to measure this thing? How long are they intending us to live this way?

Ardern has got it right. Shut life down properly for a month & then have a look at it to see if it's making a genuine difference to the curve.
 
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