I laughed, imagining her looking at people's thongs and going 'Im sorry, you cant come in in those, dress thongs only. haviannas and the like'
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I laughed, imagining her looking at people's thongs and going 'Im sorry, you cant come in in those, dress thongs only. haviannas and the like'
Daniel Andrews clarified this at his press conference this morning. I'm paraphrasing but he said that it was an easier decision for Victoria to make as we are the only state that was starting school holidays at the end of this week. To start holidays a few days early is not such a huge impost given the circumstances. He also said that at this stage schools would go back on 14th April as planned but obviously the situation would be monitored and could change.
He also said that at this stage the advice he has is that it is not necessary to close the Victorian borders. He cited the example of Albury/Wodonga health which is run by the Vic Govt but the main hospital is in Albury.
He's a pretty good communicator.
But as an aside Havianias are *smile*; especially for us, er, middle aged folks. Get yourself some Archies; most comfortable thongs ever.
Well said Riddles.
He also said that they would use the time off to develop online learning for pupils.
I wouldn't be so sure that school will be re-opening again after the 'holidays'.
Not that hard to engage common sense if you turn up to the beach and it's already packed. I suggest those that arrived later simply assumed a few more wouldn't make a difference.
Yep - Home schooling along with work commitments gonna be a challenge.
Divorce rates up. Alcoholism up. Small spike in birth rates in 9mths time but then a big drop in birth rates due to schools closing down.
In our household we've decided to relax the online/video gaming time restrictions for the kids to 24x7. It helps.
As expatriates are returning I think a few countries will see a spike. Certainly happening where I am. ~80% of all new cases are imported. As long as countries are methodical in testing at the border, or enforcing quarantine, it should be ok.
I mean, you wouldn't want a 3000 person cruise ship to dock and let everyone go onshore untracked or anything, but no one is stupid enough to do that....
Yeah, I agree. Overly emotive language doesn't help, we need logic.
I've been guilty of it, will rein it in.
Whether Morrison is doing a good job or not is almost irrelevant now, I don't envy him his job in this position. We all need to pull together. He should add Albo to the national emergency cabinet - no time for partisan politics.
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Not skepitcal, factual. The difference is clearly shown in the charts below for the infection rates by age for Australian Flu and Chinese Corona.
From the final Flu Serveilance Report for the 2019 season by the Australian Government Department of Health.
Chinese Corona Numbers to Feb 11.
Last year 812 recorded deaths in Australia from the flu. As the qualifications say, its likely higher. The median age of death from flu is 86 but the range starts at below 1yo. In Italy the median age of death from Corona is 82 but the range starts at 30yo. In the report above China had recorded no deaths under 10, one death under 20yo and 7 deaths in the 20-30yo bracket. In the flu season to date the USA has already recorded 84 deaths under 5yo. Flu is more infection rates and death rates are higher than Corna in under 30yo by a large margin.
Now to the real crux of the problem.
Case rates for flu are comparable to Corona. In Australia last year they peaked at around 60 per 100,000 pop per week. Italy is currently running around 70.
Australia hospitalised almost 4000 people with the flu last year, of which 6.3% were admitted to ICU. As we saw above the ICU admission rate for flu was actually higher in the under 65 bracket.
Italy has 20,000 hospitalised of which 15% are in intensive care. Given 96% of deaths are over 60 its reasonable to assume the vast majority of intensive care admissions are over 65.
This is the problem, we have to control the infection rate in the over 65yos because a high proportion will need critical care. If we don't it will put our hospital system under strain.
This is completely different to saying Corona is the pandemic of the century when the numbers already suggest that global deaths this year from Corona will be around the same as the flu.
Wash your hands
Cover your cough
Stay home if you are sick
Take care of your oldies.
Not only will this manage the Corona load in our hospitals it will reduce deaths from the flu and other communicable diseases which kill around 5 million a year.
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I watched their addresses in question time. Both very sombre. The economy must be in dire straits.
I watched their addresses in question time. Both very sombre. The economy must be in dire straits.
I like the boldness of the stimulus package in terms of size, we can argue about if its going in the right places or not. It has to be done.
Just an update on my situation - I'm still in Indonesia. Was in Australia briefly last week to see family and actually got tested for COVID as I had some minor symptoms. Went to the Northern - very professional, good assessment, staff doing their best and patients very well behaved. I doubt I have it but will get the results in a few days.
Unfortunately my girlfriend here in Jakarta is quite sick (not Corona) and I couldn't leave her here, so made the tough decision to head back. Wish me luck guys. Hospitals here are full of sick people - although cases are still officially low the Doctors told me its dangerous to stay in hospitals for too long because of virus risk.
Could be a tough ride here, hope to see you all on the other side.
