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IMPORTANT // Please look after your loved ones, yourself and be kind to others. If you are feeling that the world is too hard to handle there is always help - I implore you not to hesitate in contacting one of these wonderful organisations Lifeline and Beyond Blue ... and I'm sure reaching out to our PRE community we will find a way to help. T.
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It's bloody hard ... and many are doing it much harder than me ... but it's better than overwhelming the health system ... and it's certainly much better than death.
Word out of Europe is that experts have given up on herd immunity and that Covid will become endemic. They will stop counting cases and just concentrate on reporting severe illness and deaths. Vaccinations likely to be less than 50% effective against infection. That moves the discussion on therapeutics from peripheral to primary.
The news is Vaccination will keep you most likely from death or ICU but we are never coming out of restrictions in the foreseeable future.
While Covid spreads from Human to Human it will morph into different variants.
Treatments are where all our efforts will eventually be in 12 months time.
Vaccines are the same as lockdowns a temporary solution.
While Covid spreads from Human to Human it will morph into different variants.
Treatments are where all our efforts will eventually be in 12 months time.
Vaccines are the same as lockdowns a temporary solution.
Absolutely.
In case ya might have missed it, being alive is guaranteed to kill everyone eventually.
Cooties is simply another virus that we have no current cure for, so some people will get crook from it n a small percentage will also die. Same as happens with the flu, malaria, aids, pneumonia, wars, vehicle accidents, criminal activity, famine or any one of thousands of other reasons people die.
Nothing but egotistical power manipulation going on at the moment n poor old Joe public is getting bent over n butt *smile* and ordered to enjoy it.
Ok. Point taken. There is usually an implied tone that third world countries are less trustworthy but I will apologise to you in this instance.
Uttar Pradesh though is very advanced in its medical and reporting protocols as the attachments showed.
However I will point out that we are 35% fully vaccinated and likely to be in lockdown for the foreseeable future while Uttar Pradesh whose major treatment for Covid is Ivermectin is open for business and not locked down and has negligible cases.
The massive mistake that will eventually be showed in our response to this pandemic is that we ignored treatment because of our fear of transmissability.
BTW there are over 60 trials showing benefit for Ivermectin against Covid.
Ivermectin for COVID-19: real-time analysis of 262 studies
Ivermectin for COVID-19: real-time analysis of 262 studies
c19ivermectin.com
Israel says Pfizer Covid vaccine is just 39% effective as delta spreads, but still prevents severe illness
Pfizer and BioNTech's Covid-19 vaccine is just 39% effective against delta in Israel, but still provides strong protection against severe illness and hospitalization.
Good to see the Tiges have finally put out pro vaccination posts on social media. The AFL has been very slow to move on this. Our only, best & safest way back to live footy.
Just read that on Insta. Good stuff finally.
The MLB teams, NBA teams etc have been doing this for months. I mentioned it on this thread ages ago. Slooooow Australia again.
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The Institut Pasteur seems to back some of Lamby's claims
www.pasteur.fr
Ivermectin alleviates Covid-19 symptoms in an animal model
Since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, various therapeutic approaches have been explored to tackle the disease. Scientists from the Institut Pasteur have shown that ivermectin, a drug used commercially as an antiparasitic treatment, offers protection from COVID-19 symptoms in an animal model...
www.pasteur.fr
Ok. Point taken. There is usually an implied tone that third world countries are less trustworthy but I will apologise to you in this instance.
Uttar Pradesh though is very advanced in its medical and reporting protocols as the attachments showed.
However I will point out that we are 35% fully vaccinated and likely to be in lockdown for the foreseeable future while Uttar Pradesh whose major treatment for Covid is Ivermectin is open for business and not locked down and has negligible cases.
The massive mistake that will eventually be showed in our response to this pandemic is that we ignored treatment because of our fear of transmissability.
BTW there are over 60 trials showing benefit for Ivermectin against Covid.
Ivermectin for COVID-19: real-time analysis of 262 studies
Ivermectin for COVID-19: real-time analysis of 262 studies
60 trials of which how many are sh1t? I'd take one good, randomised, double blind clinical trial over n=1000 crappy ones.
Uttar Pradesh does seem to be a success story in India - if you read the official reporting from the government there they put it down to contact tracing and social protocols, very few even mention Ivermectin as a factor. A lot of variables at play there.
Dealing with COVID, the Uttar Pradesh way
The Triple-T model implemented by the State has brought down the daily positivity rate from 16 per cent to merely 0.5 per cent. Other states must follow suit Predictions were once being made that coronavirus cases in Uttar Pradesh would exceed one lakh a day in May. On the contrary, the state has
www.dailypioneer.com
Uttar Pradesh’s Strategic Preparedness and Response to COVID-19
practiceconnect.azimpremjiuniversity.edu.in
On the Israel data - this is acknowledged. The vaccines are still extremely effective in preventing hospitalisations/deaths, which is the point. As we already know, covid will penetrate the population, most people will be asymptomatic given vaccination, some will have mild symptoms, hospitalisations and deaths will go down by a factor of ten approximately.
Of course we have to keep an open mind so when the high quality clinical trials showing Ivermectin is truly effective as a prophylactic/treatment roll in then we'll see.
The Institut Pasteur seems to back some of Lamby's claims
Ivermectin alleviates Covid-19 symptoms in an animal model
Since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, various therapeutic approaches have been explored to tackle the disease. Scientists from the Institut Pasteur have shown that ivermectin, a drug used commercially as an antiparasitic treatment, offers protection from COVID-19 symptoms in an animal model...
Yes.
If you read that it states that Ivermectin potentially reduces inflammation in the respiratory tract, but does nothing to stop viral lifespan or replication. This means you really have to be in a bad way in terms of covid infection for this to be of any benefit. Lots of medications can do that and many are already being used in Covid treatment for severely affected patients.
I wondered why Lamby had made a subtle shift from claiming that Ivermectin was a prophylactic and a covid cure to a "therapeutic". Nice move Lambster.
So potentially a treatment for covid. Not sure why so many on here mock something that could treat the sick.
My feeling is there was quite some cognitive dissonance occurring for the psychologist when trying to reconcile the concerns held for the welfare of the children with information that perhaps the lockdowns were not the answer to combat the virus especially with scientific and medical information showing differing views. The psychologist is also covering herself in a legal capacity.
The second point made in the video was about rational thought and misinformation. Sometimes it's outdated information rather than complete misinformation. Medicine and science is never static, change is constant and when new options become available, I believe they should be explored especially when the current state of flux is not working either from a medical perspective or from an economical perspective. Unfortunately none of the more up to date information is available to people who only ever watch or listen to main stream media due to censorship. Anything spoken or written about which does not conform to the accepted narrative is deleted almost immediately.
Conspiracy purpose and the virus? Do you believe there is a conspiracy? Some people do, others don't - bottom line is - regardless of if there is or there isn't - why does the thought that there is an effective method of treating the virus challenge people so much? Perhaps if the knowledge of an effective treatment was widespread, and extended lockdowns became completely unnecessary, there may also be far less need for a injection. Natural immunity is far superior although not providing any profit for the pharmaceutical companies.
I read a fascinating article yesterday from an Italian doctor so here is the link for your information.
Questioning Covid
🖨️ Print post ARTICLE SUMMARY All symptoms seen in Covid patients can be explained as neurological impairment of the autonomic nervous system. Studies have shown that drugs that […]
www.westonaprice.org
Yeh, we get nothing but case numbers and exposure sites. How many households are involved? If one member of a household get it what % of the other members are catching it?
give us more information.
