In her and Slo-mo we couldn’t have two worse conservatives at state and Federal level to deal with a nation wide, full public crisis.
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Berejiklian has been giving health advice for the last few weeks to Chief Health Officer Dr Kerry Chant.Berejiklian is, if she hasn’t already, going to cause unnecessary deaths in NSW and potentially the rest of the country. Now talking about easing restrictions at a 50% vaccination rate and not the National Cabinet agreed 70%.
Needs to be removed from office. Another wealth before health conservative.
States demand NSW consults before going it alone on eased restrictions
NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian has been told by other state leaders that she must consult national cabinet about any plan to deviate from an agreed strategy to contain COVID-19.www.theage.com.au
I wonder if those who were putting Gladys on a pedestal while criticising everything Dictator Dan did are now rethinking their previous positions.
Gladys is mismanaging this so bad, so very very bad, that the previous "gold standard" claims have to be what many of us always believed they were, just dumb luck.
Gladys is mismanaging this so bad, so very very bad, that the previous "gold standard" claims have to be what many of us always believed they were, just dumb luck.
How Hazzard has kept his job has got me beat, he showed his incompetence during the Ruby Princees fiasco.
And now he comes out with a statement like this.......unbelievable !!
"But Mr Hazzard said the premier was trying to give the community a sense of hope and drive up vaccination rates, and they were taking advice and would need to know more before easing public health orders.
The health minister disputed suggestions the government had not listened to the health advice regarding the "moving feast" that was the COVID-19 Delta strain outbreak.
He repeatedly reminded the committee the pair had volunteered their time and were not obliged to answer any questions."
www.sbs.com.au
And now he comes out with a statement like this.......unbelievable !!
"But Mr Hazzard said the premier was trying to give the community a sense of hope and drive up vaccination rates, and they were taking advice and would need to know more before easing public health orders.
The health minister disputed suggestions the government had not listened to the health advice regarding the "moving feast" that was the COVID-19 Delta strain outbreak.
He repeatedly reminded the committee the pair had volunteered their time and were not obliged to answer any questions."
Kerry Chant concedes 'different decisions could have been made' about when to send NSW into lockdown
The state CHO and Health Minister Brad Hazzard have been quizzed about their handling of the NSW COVID-19 crisis at a parliamentary inquiry.
www.sbs.com.au
SA offers Pfizer vaccinations to people aged 16 and over
South Australian authorities say people aged 16 and over will be able to book in for their Pfizer COVID-19 vaccinations from next week.
www.abc.net.au
Some good news. Hopefully Victoria follows suit shortly.
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I hope she is only saying that as a carrot to get people vaccinated, lifting lockdowns is probably a better incentive than avoiding death.Berejiklian is, if she hasn’t already, going to cause unnecessary deaths in NSW and potentially the rest of the country. Now talking about easing restrictions at a 50% vaccination rate and not the National Cabinet agreed 70%.
Needs to be removed from office. Another wealth before health conservative.
States demand NSW consults before going it alone on eased restrictions
NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian has been told by other state leaders that she must consult national cabinet about any plan to deviate from an agreed strategy to contain COVID-19.
Yes pretty much they were all very similar.
It's funny but I can remember some pharmaceutical events I went to but never ever can I remember the product or company.
Doctors generally have no aliegage to any company or particular brand of drug, rather they want whatever appears to be best in producing a healing outcome. As soon as another product appears better they will switch.
In all honesty, pharmaceutical promoting of products was a complete pain and apart from the odd fun event ,nothing came of it.
Sadly, the educational meetings that were funded by companies, obviously to promote their product, were fantastic learning settings for rural doctors who could hear from experts in a field and network with others. This is the setting rural doctors would learn and remain up to date. Generally the product was not discussed at all, just the various management options.
Closing this has been to the detriment of rural patients.
As I predicted, the University of Youtube.
Lambo, you still don't understand what safety data in drug trials is, and neither does this bozo.
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She should be judged on the outcomes. She's *smile* the current outbreak up royally and as suggested is putting the rest of the country in jeopardy. She should be jettisoned. Can't see how this can possibly help her re-election chances.
To say previous outbreak handling was dumb luck is just that - dumb. They had the best contact tracing system and were not dealing with delta. They managed it multiple times. They haven't adjusted for the different more contagious strain. Combine it with complacency in the population and you get the current clusterfuck.
Never surprises how the politically biased only see black and white and refuse to judge situations on merit.
Unfortunately I’ve seen some people spreading misinformation reference the Vaers website as facts.
Their disclaimers are pretty clear and strong. https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html
There's no truth that VAERS system shows 6,000 'died because of' COVID vaccines - Poynter
The system accepts unverified reports of possible side effects. No evidence has established that a COVID vaccine caused any deaths.www.poynter.org
Where's Anty and David to point out the Poynter Institute is partly funded by the Charles Koch Institute and the agenda of the Kochies is denying climate change, repealling Obamacare, dismantling unions, keeping corporate money in elections and fighting internet neutrality. Can we trust that organisation if it is associated with right wing nutjobs?
Vaers reports associations not causation and yes the disclaimers on the quality of information are clear.
It begs the question though. Where do you find the definitive data on causation?
You're right Anty. Merck wasn't trying to throw shade on its own drug's safety record because it had invested massively in a competing product. All pish posh and poppycock!
Also Merck never said this "We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information"
Makes sense because why would Ivermectin work on Brazilians and Phillipinos if it was meant for Africans. Also I am sure that Merck was probably just unaware that the prophylaxis dose was identical to the prescribed dose recommended or peer reviewed studies showed Ivermectin was safe at 10 times the recommended dose. They are a busy lot down there at Merck making that anti viral the US government has agreed to pay $1.2 biillion for. They just don't get the time to keep up with the literature.
By the way you are welcome to address the facts I mention rather than avoiding them like the Wicked Witch of the West avoids water.
345 cases in NSW. 2 deaths. 34% in Iso during infectious period.
This is day 57 of the NSW outbreak. Victoria’s outbreak peaked at day 57 last year with 700. Then started dropping pretty quickly.
I think the media has softened a little towards Andrews… And so they should. What is happening in NSW is vindicating his decisions. There are also appears to be less trolls on social media, as they are quickly running out of ammunition. .
Although the Herald Scum still has a crack… they made a reference to 200 days in lockdown today after the 7 day extension on todays front page.
Also, the fact that NSW have largely escaped big outbreaks up until now has 100% been luck as opposed to good management. I have been arguing this for 12 months.
This is day 57 of the NSW outbreak. Victoria’s outbreak peaked at day 57 last year with 700. Then started dropping pretty quickly.
I think the media has softened a little towards Andrews… And so they should. What is happening in NSW is vindicating his decisions. There are also appears to be less trolls on social media, as they are quickly running out of ammunition. .
Although the Herald Scum still has a crack… they made a reference to 200 days in lockdown today after the 7 day extension on todays front page.
Also, the fact that NSW have largely escaped big outbreaks up until now has 100% been luck as opposed to good management. I have been arguing this for 12 months.
How do you prove luck Ian? Why can't you acknowledge they got it right then and have got it wrong now?
Dan never did nuffin wrong and Gladys never did nuffin right hey?
Resorting to political bias to explain differing opinions to yours is weak.
If it was political there would be a pile on South Australia as well. But even when their *smile* up caused the last decent Vic meltdown, there's wasnt an over the top reaction.
Gladys got lucky earlier. You don't go from World Glass Gold to wet baby *smile* that quickly, no matter what side of politics she's from.
