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You don't think it would have been hugely more beneficial to send out multi-lingual information helpers to inform and educate people who may be having trouble understanding what is going on? Not only would this remove the "police throwing people in vans" and calls of "gestapo", but it would IMO have a greater chance of getting the community onboard with what needs to be done.

And yes, they should have done something in the eastern suburbs of Sydney weeks and weeks ago. The biggest super-spreader event was from Bondi, which I think has cracked the 200 cases mark as a result.
Come on we are 18 months into this pandemic. People know what the score is no matter what language they speak. I don't buy for a second that a language barrier or lack of understanding is the issue.
 
So it seems Slomo and Fraudenburg and Hunt have been caught taking credit for others work again.
It was some senior Australian businessmen and former PM Kevin Rudd who helped organise the advance shipment of Pfizer vaccines.


What a bunch of *smile* do nothing frauds we have running the joint.

Heh, I saw that and laughed. I'm sure there's some mayo there somewhere, but interesting it wasn't Rudd's idea, it was senior execs with contacts at Pfizer who called in Rudd to assist.

Dunno. The Utopia writers must be very jealous.
 
Scotty from marketing, seems to have forgotten how to do his his trade..................getting on the phone.

I would've thought Morrison might have got in Biden's ear at the G7.

"Senior Pfizer executives told the businessman that if Australia was to make a more serious effort, after its treatment at the hands of relatively junior bureaucrats, it would have to come from much higher up, expressing their astonishment that Prime Minister Scott Morrison had not directly spoken to the Pfizer chairman and chief executive Albert Bourla, as former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had done on multiple occasions."

 
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I wonder if Jeff Kennett, Dim Tim, Credlin, Mitchell, Bolt, etc, are eating humble pie today with the realisation that Andrews got it right all along when it comes to locking down?

"Gold Standard" Gladys has been afforded a much easier run from the media. Strange really. Not

i just want the NSW media to ask Gladys the most basic, simple and obvious question of them all… why was Ikea allowed to remain open?

Yep. And because NSW won’t do it properly, Victoria has no alternative but to protect itself from them by any means necessary.

This is exactly why we closed our border to them over Xmas/New year.
 
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I'll go back to my original point.

No-one is allowed to leave Sydney and go to another part of NSW. this has been the case for 3 weeks.

there are no cases in NSW outside Sydney.

therefore, on the current numbers and laws, the risk to Victorians from regional NSW, is actually 0.

but as I said numerous times,

I completely understand your POV and partially agree with it.
Things is EasyE, people can leave Sydney, trucks will be taking food and other supplies everywhere every day, i assume buses and trains are still running, people who live in regional NSW may still be going into Sydney if they are essentials workers, people from regional areas will be going in and out of Sydney for medical reasons, if someone from Tibooburra needs a new Swedish bed pan where are they going to go? Ikea in Sydney of course. It hasn't spread to regional NSW and hopefully it stays that way, but if it does it may well be a few days before it is picked up, and in those few days it could cross the border.

Having said that the border bubbles need to be better managed than they have been in the past, and (from a far) it does appear they are.
 
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I thought covid was a concern for the whole country.
But it seems that criticism and glee seems to follow along state and voter preferences.
Disappointing really.
 
I thought covid was a concern for the whole country.
But it seems that criticism and glee seems to follow along state and voter preferences.
Disappointing really.

NSW and the PM started it. We've been bonked over the head repeatedly for the "failings" and "incompetence" of the Victorian government for 12 months and the criticism was clearly partisan. We locked our arses down for months to protect the rest of the country, and now it's time for the gold standard state to do the hard yards. Its fair enough for Victorians to be saying I told you so, NSW refused to learn from the Victorian experience and now they're paying the price for their pathetic excuse of a lockdown.
 
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I thought covid was a concern for the whole country.
But it seems that criticism and glee seems to follow along state and voter preferences.
Disappointing really.

Yeah because NSW didn't give it to Victoria during our lockdown? It was only a month ago Gladys took cheap shots at us.

Sure, I have genuine sympathy for the people of NSW that their leaders have failed them. But they also need to take some responsibility for their own complacency and lack of compliance. There was a house party/poker game involving 15 middle aged men in Sydney on Saturday night. They should know better.
 
I thought covid was a concern for the whole country.
But it seems that criticism and glee seems to follow along state and voter preferences.
Disappointing really.

Not sure you could be more wrong. There is no glee. I'm sure everyone in Australia wants NSW to win this battle for the sake of Australia. But when NSW refuses to take the hard measures that other states have, when they are letting this thing run riot despite seeing what other states have done to control it, and then see the media give Gladys an easy ride over her failings in stark contrast to what they gave Victoria, it's only natural that there is some anger of the situation.

The criticism is warranted, very warranted. Between the Gladys lack of action and the Morrison *smile* over vaccines, Australia is now at risk. The same Gladys and Morrison that chided, derided and mocked Victoria's handling of the virus.

Back to glee. I haven't seen anyone express glee at the situation, so please feel free to quote where you think people are showing glee.
 
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I thought covid was a concern for the whole country.
But it seems that criticism and glee seems to follow along state and voter preferences.
Disappointing really.

Partisan politics is both fun and annoying :)

Think of this though - if it breaks out of NSW the whole country is in deep do-do. We'll then have to choose between a Victorian Dictator Dan suppression strategy or a let-it-rip and vaccinate the hell out of everyone as soon as possible strategy. We should be doing the latter anyway of course, but if we have to do it there will be more deaths, more kids home from school, more businesses going under.
 
Thanks for the replies and your thoughts.
Its a pity we don’t have a unified approach to this endemic.
I thought that’s what the idea of a National Cabinet was for. But then I suppose vested state interests are put first. States have hte Constitutional right for deciding State matters but surely this is a National issue.
When do National interests overrule State issues on public health?
 
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I thought covid was a concern for the whole country.
But it seems that criticism and glee seems to follow along state and voter preferences.
Disappointing really.
not sure that is true in case. people are rightly bagging Morrison because he was wrong. AGAIN. he has spent the last 18 months telling everyone how good NSW are, and how everyone should be following their lead. now it suddenly appears that perhaps NSW dont have all the answers and where is he?

either NSW have forgotten all their "gold standard" responses, or maybe they have just been lucky until now. it is obviously nowhere near as bad as it got in Victoria, but with everything that should have been learnt from that experience- how to contact trace, how to minimise movement between risky workplaces, where the most at risk places are etc, plus a population that is at least partially vaccinated- it should not be.
 
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Thanks for the replies and your thoughts.
Its a pity we don’t have a unified approach to this endemic.
I thought that’s what the idea of a National Cabinet was for. But then I suppose vested state interests are put first. States have hte Constitutional right for deciding State matters but surely this is a National issue.
When do National interests overrule State issues on public health?
i think there is a national approach, from the feds. but that approach is not goon enough for 5 of the states, so they bring their own standards in. those states have not had an outbreak since Vic got ours under control last year.
 
Not sure you could be more wrong. There is no glee. I'm sure everyone in Australia wants NSW to win this battle for the sake of Australia. But when NSW refuses to take the hard measures that other states have, when they are letting this thing run riot despite seeing what other states have done to control it, and then see the media give Gladys an easy ride over her failings in stark contrast to what they gave Victoria, it's only natural that there is some anger of the situation.

The criticism is warranted, very warranted. Between the Gladys lack of action and the Morrison *smile* over vaccines, Australia is now at risk. The same Gladys and Morrison that chided, derided and mocked Victoria's handling of the virus.

Back to glee. I haven't seen anyone express glee at the situation, so please feel free to quote where you think people are showing glee.
Well going by some of the comments re Golden Gladys, it’s like some we’re taking some pleasure pointing the finger back at NSW, given what was said or done when Victoria was going through a crisis and lockdown.
Its like kids in a playground going tit for tat. Read through some of the comments. I find it tiresome enough without trawling through them to find some comments for you. Feel free to review them yourself.

I just wish all people recognise the fact that transmission doesn’t just stop at State borders.
Too much to ask for all State and Federal leaders get on the same page to instigate a unified approach to combatting this and the same goes with the vaccination program.
But politicking seems to be the way of the world, rather than the publics health and safety being paramount.

Just my thoughts on it.
 
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i think there is a national approach, from the feds. but that approach is not goon enough for 5 of the states, so they bring their own standards in. those states have not had an outbreak since Vic got ours under control last year.
Hence why I said a “unified National approach” surely in these times it’s no too hard to park the goes and define a standard that all agree to implement.
Im not holding my breath that (/most/all/ some) of the States have things under control. Maybe for the moment. But I think that especially with all these MediHotels it’s only a matter of time a State will have another outbreak.
I think I’m right to say that in every State there has been an outbreak at least once from MediHotels. Maybe not Tassie?

I just believe this will be an ongoing occurrence. Too May people tend to be selfish or disbelieving or just blase about social distancing, epwearing masks, abiding by lockdown rules and such.
I don’t take any pleasure with people pointing the finger at Gladys, Dan, Annastasia , Morrison or whoever. I have friends and relatives all over the country in every State. I want ALL of us to safe.
 
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Well going by some of the comments re Golden Gladys, it’s like some we’re taking some pleasure pointing the finger back at NSW, given what was said or done when Victoria was going through a crisis and lockdown.
Its like kids in a playground going tit for tat. Read through some of the comments. I find it tiresome enough without trawling through them to find some comments for you. Feel free to review them yourself.

I just wish all people recognise the fact that transmission doesn’t just stop at State borders.
Too much to ask for all State and Federal leaders get on the same page to instigate a unified approach to combatting this and the same goes with the vaccination program.
But politicking seems to be the way of the world, rather than the publics health and safety being paramount.

Just my thoughts on it.

I've read all the posts and can't find Glee. Anger, disappointment and frustration at Golden Gladys, but no glee.

The politicking is squarely the blame of the Feds and then Gladys herself. Taking pot shots at every opportunity at Victoria. Sending their media attack dogs to his press conferences everyday in a feeble attempt at a gotcha moment, calling for all good Victorians unjustly imprisoned by Andrews to rebel against his over the top despot ways. The Feds even backed Palmer when he tried to sue the WA government for closing their borders.

You hate the politicking? So does everyone else. But there needs to be a focus on why NSW has let this get out of control despite all the lessons learned from other states, but for some reason the media are going easy on them, further risking Australia.
 
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Well going by some of the comments re Golden Gladys, it’s like some we’re taking some pleasure pointing the finger back at NSW, given what was said or done when Victoria was going through a crisis and lockdown.

Its pointing the finger at the hypocrisy of some politicians and mainstream media that have been partisan about NSW in the past, not glee at the NSW lockdown and NSW people. I've just had an uncle die in Armidale NSW, neither of his 2 brothers will be able to attend the funeral in person, so believe me I'd rather they were not going throgh this.
 
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I wonder if Jeff Kennett, Dim Tim, Credlin, Mitchell, Bolt, etc, are eating humble pie today with the realisation that Andrews got it right all along when it comes to locking down?

I now some in the mainstram murdoch media have deleted their tweets about the Vic lockdowns. No admititng they were wrong just trying to cover it up.
 
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