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And here is the dilemma, we must open up sooner or later. Sure tighten up quarantine, but Fortress Australia won't fly.
 
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I'm no genius, far from it, but you'd think the intelligent people employed would have figured out that mixing newcomers with those about to leave quarantine would expose those leaving

Perhaps a staged quarantine stay where you have to spend a week or so in an isolated departure lounge subject to tests before being released?

Like a bird avery where there's a separate enclosure before entering the main enclosure in case a bird slips out. My old man who's never had a bird escape in 50 years could give them some advice.
Yeah, it shouldn't be rocket science.
If Quarantine was water tight then I might agree but until it is then I'd have stopped the flights.
Stopping flights without building the quarantine facilities you speak of is not the solution. You will never open up Australia while the disease is out there and Australia doesn't have quarantine facilities nor the population vaccinated.

Meanwhile the world, trade and economies around the world are opening up while Australia still bans it's own citizens from returning home. Australia is better than that. Has always been better than that.
 
Yeah, it shouldn't be rocket science.

Stopping flights without building the quarantine facilities you speak of is not the solution. You will never open up Australia while the disease is out there and Australia doesn't have quarantine facilities nor the population vaccinated.

Meanwhile the world, trade and economies around the world are opening up while Australia still bans it's own citizens from returning home. Australia is better than that. Has always been better than that.
Knowing the carnage the disease has caused so many other countries in the world, I wonder with hindsight if given the choice whether they'd be doing all they could to keep Covid out?
 
The guy the brought it to Victoria caught the virus in the last days of his Hotel Quarantine.

The person he contracted it from, his hotel neighbour, hasn't caused an outbreak.

Hotel Quarantine is your issue.
Definitely. On the issue of quarantine, I'm pretty certain it must have been a unanimous decision of the National cabinet for the states to run their own quarantine programs. If it wasn't, you would have had premiers referring back to it and stating they were against it at the time. The VIC government would have been screaming it from the rooftops if they had been opposed to the decision and wanted the feds to handle it. The CHO of each state and the CMO were all involved in adviusing the national cabinet. They must not have foreseen the challenges of state based quarantine.
I'm surprised there wasn't more made of this at the time, perhaps it was thought it would not be a long term issue?
 
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Regional lifted!

Hopefully Melbourne citizens don't go regional!
But....a bunch of us are coming up to visit you next week ? We've got a bus and everything. ToO, if he can get over his flu, is gonna drive us all up there ?
 
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The guy the brought it to Victoria caught the virus in the last days of his Hotel Quarantine.

The person he contracted it from, his hotel neighbour, hasn't caused an outbreak.

Hotel Quarantine is your issue.
And, I found out late last night by accident, who actually came up with the idea of Hotel Quarantine???

Anyone willing to guess???? I never knew.

Dutton??? No. Cross that name of the list.

Have to rush off, post link later
 
And, I found out late last night by accident, who actually came up with the idea of Hotel Quarantine???

Anyone willing to guess???? I never knew.

Dutton??? No. Cross that name of the list.

Have to rush off, post link later

I heard the same earlier from a shadow minister in the Vic government.
 
A vaccinated population is the key to opening up. The sooner we can get that done, the better.
Correct and that needs to between 70 to 80 % fully vaccinated and we are currently sitting at 2% :(
 
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If I recall correctly he is talking in the context of needing a better system than having people just head home for the 2 weeks as was happening initially.

I was one of the first people to arrive back in Australia in March 2020 after the come home call had been made, and I couldn't believe how underprepared the system was. You didn't even have to provide them with the details of where you were going.

The initial push for hotel quarantine was to fix that debacle I think.

I think you are right, and it was also when we were being told it wasn't airborne and was only being transmitted on surfaces.

Its now known to be airborne, which makes an enclosed hotel a very poor solution for managing quarantine, hence the push now for more facilities like Howard Springs.
 
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Later on in that "inquiry", he also tried to absolve himself of any responsibility or accountability for the program.

He effectively said that the person that chairs a committee (National Cabinet in this instance) of any sorts is responsible for any final decision being made. He said he knew this because he has chaired plenty of committees. He added the remarks as an additional unrequested comment after seeming to have previously finished his statement to the question asked by the "inquirer".
 
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If I recall correctly he is talking in the context of needing a better system than having people just head home for the 2 weeks as was happening initially.

I was one of the first people to arrive back in Australia in March 2020 after the come home call had been made, and I couldn't believe how underprepared the system was. You didn't even have to provide them with the details of where you were going.

The initial push for hotel quarantine was to fix that debacle I think.
Considering how much we have learnt about Covid in the last 18 months I'm not sure how relevant who's idea it was in March 2020.
 
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Yeah but you do that and everyone cuts up rough about Australians not being allowed to return home. So we do let them come home and the virus is rampant in Victoria again.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
So no Ash Barty presenting the cup this year?

On the bright side, Morrison could stay in NZ.